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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?</H1>
    <B>Buchan Milne</B> 
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    <I>Fri May 13 12:09:17 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>On Friday, 13 May 2011 11:12:41 Z&#233; wrote:
&gt;<i> 2011/5/13 Z&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mmodem00 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/5/13 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#928;&#945;&#961;&#945;&#963;&#954;&#949;&#965;&#942; 13 &#924;&#940;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2011 00:39:55 Z&#233; &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 2011/5/12 Dick Gevers &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dvgevers at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; On Thu, 12 May 2011 13:20:39 +0200, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote about
</I>
&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; perl -pi -e 's|#define TT_CONFIG_OPTION_BYTECODE_INTERPRETER|/\*
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; #define TT_CONFIG_OPTION_BYTECODE_INTERPRETER  \*/|'
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; include/freetype/config/ftoption.h
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; dont forget to also increase Release to avoid conflicts with existant
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; freetype2, and then build the package.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Why do all these things when you can simply add an entry in the
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; font.conf file ?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thats a fact, but hat should happen is that freetype2 should have
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bytecode interpreter disabled by default, since so far users prefer
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Seams Fedora choosed to finally fix it, it reverted freetype2 with a
</I>&gt;<i> patch to disable bytecode interpreter. -&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=547532">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=547532</A>
</I>
No, this is not what is covered in this bug report.

Firstly, here are the non-problems:
1)The bytecode interpreter *can* make fonts look better, *if* they have 
hinting in the fonts. Not all ttf fonts have hinting, but AFAIK all the MS 
fonts *do* have hinting.

So, historically, the recommended approach was to use the PLF freetype *if* 
you had imported MS fonts (e.g. from a dual-boot Windows installation).

2)The Freetype autohinter was implemented later, and improves things for 
unhinted fonts, but hinted fonts still looked better with the bytecode 
interpreter.


This is the problem:
3)If the bytecode interpreter was enabled, auto-hinting was disabled (or, 
could be, for 'medium' and 'heavy' hinting settings) for unhinted fonts.

The Fedora bug isn't about disabling the bytecode interpreter, but by still 
allowing auto-hinting for unhinted fonts if the bytecode interpreter.

*This* is the right fix. Your insistence to *disable* the bytecode interpreter 
(leaving users with *no* options, in case they need hinted fonts) is the wrong 
fix.

But, thanks for the pointer to the bug, which points to the patches.

&gt;<i> Why dont we also do the same thing?
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Since theres users complaining about it, why not solve it once for all?
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Regards,
Buchan
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