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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)</H1>
    <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> 
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    <I>Fri Mar 25 21:22:03 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 02:10:54PM +0100, Tux99 wrote:
&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Quote: Robert Xu wrote on Fri, 25 March 2011 13:53
</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Based on all this conversation here, it is clear that we have gotten
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; off topic.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My suggestion would be to make a separate repository for Trinity.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Beware, we also updated Qt to version 3.3.8c (just a few minor
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; changes, no idea if bugs remain) while we finish the porting to Qt4.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Thanks Robert, I might take up your offer of a repo on the Trinity servers
</I>&gt;<i> if I decide to continue to build Trinty packages for Mageia. But right now
</I>&gt;<i> I'm a bit demotivated to continue with this and in fact to continue with
</I>&gt;<i> Mageia at all.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Maybe I will rather help you to make some great Trinity packages for
</I>&gt;<i> Redhat/Centos since I'm also a Redhat/Centos user, but right now I have to
</I>&gt;<i> first make up my mind.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> -- 
</I>&gt;<i> Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
</I>You&#8217;re quite quick to demotivate yourself. I waited nearly 2 years to
have my window manager inside my distribution, because it relies on a
specific compile option on a much used package (cairo).

During all that time, I _listened_ to people, and though it was kinda
heartbraking to admit they were right, I had to understand the reason
behind this.

Recently, I finally decided to get my hands dirty and to make cairo
available for every package, while at the same time providing a mean to
get the other cairo available for my package.

It seems you do not want to listen to other people concerns, that&#8217;s bad,
because that prevents you to find a solution that will make everyone
happy.

Now, people suggested you to do some things, and provide a way to have
what you want, please consider it, you&#8217;ll understand that people are not
against having qt3-devel if there is really such a need, and that TDE
can be included once it has been proven to not wreck havok in the
distribution (I know these last words are hard to read, because I was in
the same situation, but that concern is real).

Reassure people, by providing builds in a separate place so that people
can test having TDE and KDE, perhaps help you fix issues !

I wish you good luck for this, this is not an easy task, but please
change your way of doing things, it&#8217;s not by shouting louder than the
others that you will get something (you nearly replied to everyone in
this thread), people don&#8217;t want words, people want acts. You have the
freedom to act, take this opportunity :-)

my 2 cents
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