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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5	successor)</H1>
    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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    <I>Fri Mar 25 20:00:19 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>Op vrijdag 25 maart 2011 10:39:28 schreef Tux99:
&gt;<i> Quote: xi wrote on Fri, 25 March 2011 10:32
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As always, please don't drop too fast the packages that you find
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; useless. There are still some users like me who may use QT3.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I still use some &quot;not so common&quot; applications (eg tools for electronic)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; which needs QT3 and it is always much more convenient to simply do a
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;urpmi libqt3-devel&quot; than downloading and compiling qt3 ... especially
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if libqt3 is already included in Mageia !
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Exactly my point, thanks Xavier.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> This is about not restricting other people's freedoms.
</I>
iirc, it was mentioned somewhere that qt3 (without devel) was only submitted 
to satisfy the lsb requirements (which are ridiculously unrealisticly outdated 
imho, but there is talk of upgrading).

I read this as: 'we just put it there, but noone even tested it to see if it's 
actually working', it might as well have been an empty package or not there.

i think that during this huge (boring) thread to me, this has been 
misunderstood a few times.

as some people mentioned:
- make TDE build and run well locally (because TDE obviously is what you want, 
and it does give a good test-run on qt3 on almost all parts)
- co-install it with KDE4 and make it both run very well
- discuss with current maintainers/packagers/your mentor of qt3 how to 
support/maintain this (i suspect there is no real maintainer, but check the 
commit logs who worked on it).
- after all these steps (quite a bit of work), start committing your stuff and 
submitting to core/testing
- organize a few testers to test it out
- move to core/release

I don't think anyone disagrees with these steps, if they do, you could have 
packaging leaders/council decide on this.
(IMHO, it would be nice to test this procedure of council decisions, i would 
love to see this happening)

I suspect due to the freeze that this will hit cauldron after mageia release 1

good luck
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