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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer</H1>
<B>Buchan Milne</B>
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<I>Fri Mar 25 09:28:20 CET 2011</I>
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----- "Maarten Vanraes" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
><i> Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 11:18:03 schreef Olivier Blin:
</I>><i> > Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> writes:
</I>><i> > >>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously
</I>><i> the
</I>><i> > >>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has
</I>><i> been
</I>><i> > >>> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get
</I>><i> discussed
</I>><i> > >>> yet).
</I>><i> > >>
</I>><i> > >> They were also on the PowerPack images, and they are installed
</I>><i> > >> automatically over a network install
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > But to be installed via network you have to have a network
</I>><i> connection
</I>><i> > > first, n'est-ce pas?
</I>><i> > > That's what this thread is about.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > It is now also about "in which media should we include non-free
</I>><i> > packages?" :)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> no, about if they are really non-free... stuff released as BSD is free
</I>><i> in my
</I>><i> book. if they don't comply, they could be sued for all i care, but
</I>><i> it's still
</I>><i> free.
</I>
Well, even if they say the source code is BSD, if:
1)The source is not provided (under a free license)
2)The source can't be compiled with a free toolchain
then it is non-free, and most likely the license is wrong, and they have chosen to relicense from BSD to a proprietary licence (which BSD of course allows).
Compare e.g. Darwin and Mac OS X. Since Mac OS X is has some originally BSD source code, must Apple provide me with complete Mac OS X source code? If they don't, do I have grounds to sue? No. Is it Free? Most definitely not.
Regards,
Buchan
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