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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer</H1>
    <B>andre999</B> 
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<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> 2011/3/24 Olivier Blin&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thorsten van Lil&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;  writes:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;    wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;    wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No, but the question is more , will we provide a &quot;non free&quot; dvd iso,
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and this question is i think interesting.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A possible solution for people with such a setup could be a non-free
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;driver cd ISO&quot; which they could include in the installation process.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install them?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think the majority of the users don't care that much about
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> proprietary issues, they just need them for using there wireless card
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or graphic card. Those how do care can just uncheck the non-free part
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of the DVD. :)
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yep, it could just be an option. The desktop selection step seems to be a
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> good place in the installer to include it, it is visible enough, and
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> right before packages installation. Though it would have to be renamed.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We could have a checkbox &quot;Install proprietary drivers if needed
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (non-free software)&quot;, ticked by default.
</I>
perfect solution :)

&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Are you aware that this would mean that Mageia is not a &quot;free
</I>&gt;<i> distribution&quot; as planned? No matter how you phrase the question and
</I>&gt;<i> how many checkboxes a user would have to check, if non-free contents
</I>&gt;<i> is included in an ISO it is not a free ISO anymore.
</I>
Mageia the distribution includes non-free software.  We are talking 
about what we include on the ISO.
If users want to exclude installing any non-free packages, this 
check-box solution solves the problem nicely.

So users that want to ensure that their installation works &quot;out of the 
box&quot; will be satisfied.
And purists that don't mind some things not working, can avoid 
installing non-free drivers.

Sounds like a win-win solution to me :)

-- 
Andr&#233;
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