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    <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> 
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    <I>Thu Mar 24 15:28:48 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 14:55, Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt; wrote:
&gt;<i> On 03/24/2011 09:45 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy#acceptable_licenses">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy#acceptable_licenses</A>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;The tainted section accepts software under a license that is might be
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> free or open source and which cannot be redistributed publicly in
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> certain areas in the world, or due to patents issues.&quot;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mirrors_policy#tainted">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mirrors_policy#tainted</A>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;stuff we think we can redistribute, but that may have some patent
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> issues or other restrictions in other countries&quot;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> look like consistent with each other, althought the &quot;what belongs / is
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> allowed here must still be discussed&quot; indeed looks like it's not
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> frozen yet.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> The reason I ask is that, in perusing the PLF package descriptions which
</I>&gt;<i> include the reason the package is in PLF, the criteria seems to be &quot;Mandriva
</I>&gt;<i> was afraid to include this in main/contrib for &lt;fill in your own reason from
</I>&gt;<i> a large list&gt;&quot; .
</I>
So in the MDV context, that was valid for anything, true.

&gt;<i> &#160;The Mageia policies try to enumerate specific reasons why
</I>&gt;<i> things will be put in tainted, but don't explcitly say that there's anything
</I>&gt;<i> we *wouldn't* put in tainted. &#160;So it's hard to know whether tainted == PLF
</I>&gt;<i> or not.
</I>
Well I believe you should see this first as a concentric thing: Mageia
is made of core, nonfree and tainted.
 * free software (OSI/FSF) goes in core;
 * that for which we don't have source but can redistribute go in
nonfree; checked on a case-by-case basis;
 * all the rest goes into tainted on a case-by-case study again;
things that likely either:
   - have no free license but under really significant patent-threat;

Indeed, it should be distinctively made clear whether:
 * tainted keeps a focus on free software that is under risk,
 * or if it has a &quot;all the rest that doesn't qualify for core or nonfree&quot;

I'd favour the latter as a default rule, keeping the case-by-case
study for inclusion and leaving real life situations help us sort this
out - it's really not easy to draw a general rule out of only a few
practical cases.

Anyway, two definitions is bad, so we should move it in a single place.

Romain
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