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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] second impressions of mageia 1 alpha 2 (upgrade	from MDV 2010 x86_64 PWP)</H1>
    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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<PRE>Op vrijdag 18 maart 2011 01:55:13 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
&gt;<i> Hello,
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> first i noticed that 64bit iso is 3.8GB, while 32bit is more than 4GB.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> upgrading mdv 2010.1 x86_64 PWP with mageia 1 alpha 2 x86_64 DVD:
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> - i noticed that the delay in text is still there during boot from DVD(#61)
</I>&gt;<i> - in installer, i noticed that some of the blue rounding is gone now(#62)
</I>&gt;<i> - ( what shall we do with #66 ? low priority? not valid? discuss more? )
</I>&gt;<i> - I chose upgrade, and it almost immediately started upgrading.
</I>&gt;<i> - I absolutely love the artwork during install: 1.5 thumbs up!
</I>&gt;<i> - upgrade did tell me it would take more than 1hour, after a while it told
</I>&gt;<i> me it would be more than 4 hours
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I remember from earlier mdv upgrades that upgrade from DVD always took a
</I>&gt;<i> huge amount of time, so i haven't tried it since it was mandrake...  at
</I>&gt;<i> later times, i upgraded using urpmi sources and even later just by the
</I>&gt;<i> applet. or sometimes did a fresh install.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> i noticed on my vbox3 that the disk and DVD gave 1sec activity and then
</I>&gt;<i> 2sec nothing... so i suppose this could be more a CPU issue rather than a
</I>&gt;<i> disk issue... (VM has 1cpu + 512 MB RAM)
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> - after about 10% i see an error message:
</I>&gt;<i> i tried to take screenshots of everything... but there was alot.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> * it started with conflicts of /usr/share/doc/HTML/kcontrol/ that was moved
</I>&gt;<i> from kdebase to kderuntime or something
</I>&gt;<i> * alot of X needed by Y stuff: from perl-base, x11, python, imagemagick
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> it seems to (ironically) be bug #404 . the upgrade seems to stop and just
</I>&gt;<i> move on to configuration...
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> - the users step was skipped (seems normal) however, the item is still
</I>&gt;<i> there? - the bootloader step was done
</I>&gt;<i> - i don't know if it's a bug or not, but security level was marked as
</I>&gt;<i> &quot;unconfigured&quot; in the configuration step.
</I>&gt;<i> - i chose yes to updates
</I>&gt;<i> - during update the small font is still there (#67)
</I>&gt;<i> - it gave an error that &quot;aria2 failed(exited with 127): unable to access
</I>&gt;<i> distribution medium (no media.cfg file found)&quot; with a text below: &quot;medium:
</I>&gt;<i> ()&quot; (#426)
</I>&gt;<i> - it then proceeded to show the screen to reboot
</I>&gt;<i> - documentation asked to look on terminal to find out some stuff, but in my
</I>&gt;<i> vbox, pressing Function keys with alt didn't do anything, and ctrl-alt
</I>&gt;<i> switched me on the host, so i couldn't test that.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> so i rebooted.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> - rebooting showed me the old grub (text + graphic), but seemed to boot
</I>&gt;<i> into mageia, (even after selecting mandriva).
</I>&gt;<i> - black background in DM
</I>&gt;<i> - logging in to KDE gives &quot;could not start kdeinit4. check your
</I>&gt;<i> installation&quot; and a second window behind it, about changing names of
</I>&gt;<i> folders. i was in a daring mood and clicked update names. and after that
</I>&gt;<i> on the &quot;okay&quot; button from the kde error message. it got me back to kdm, so
</I>&gt;<i> i clicked console login - seeing tty, i noticed it still said Mandriva
</I>&gt;<i> linux
</I>&gt;<i> - product.id + /etc/issue still unchanged
</I>&gt;<i> - urpmq --list-url showed me that the DVD was still listed as medium, so i
</I>&gt;<i> did the urpmi --auto-update
</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;unable to access core media&quot; but it continued with message:
</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;some requested packages cannot be installed: dblatex, gtk-doc&quot;, i said
</I>&gt;<i> yes - &quot;the following will be removed: &quot; kmail, due to missing kio-* ; and
</I>&gt;<i> some others like mdkonline and some python stuff., i said yes
</I>&gt;<i> - then installing package step, 276 packages and 39MB will be freed., i
</I>&gt;<i> said yes.
</I>&gt;<i> - it said, please insert medium &quot;core media&quot;
</I>&gt;<i> - i ejected it in vbox and put it back in, that did the trick
</I>&gt;<i> - it tried to start and said i needed 86MB on / (out of disk space?)
</I>&gt;<i> - i removed tetex (it seemed to take 200M on /usr/share/texmf) with urpme
</I>&gt;<i> and it removed also 12 that depended on it dblatex and stuff
</I>&gt;<i> - i redid the autoupdate, and it asked again to insert medium core media,
</I>&gt;<i> but reinserting it didn't seem to work. also not inserting something else
</I>&gt;<i> first. - failing that, i removed the core media and set up urpmi sources
</I>&gt;<i> from online local media. alas it seemed aria2c didn't work due to libz and
</I>&gt;<i> libxml versions missing...
</I>&gt;<i> - specifying --wget option didn't help either, because my eth0 wasn't
</I>&gt;<i> present, but renamed to eth1, which didn't have a config, of course.
</I>&gt;<i> - after dhclient eth1 and shutting down firewall, and iptables service to
</I>&gt;<i> accept, that worked.
</I>&gt;<i> - it also showed the &quot;2\n2&quot; isn't numeric warning messages (#201)
</I>&gt;<i> - i also had to add --no-md5sum (due to md5sum check failed)
</I>&gt;<i> - i also got messages that it was unable to get pubkeys
</I>&gt;<i> - urpmi --auto-update --wget gave warnings but seemed to work, only 2
</I>&gt;<i> packages were to be removed due to python &lt; 2.7
</I>&gt;<i> - after it ran, it seemd to be only related to urpmi update, and so it
</I>&gt;<i> restarted itself and asked me to remove libktorrent to proceed, i say yes
</I>&gt;<i> - it then said 300+ extra MB for 1700+ packages, i say yes
</I>&gt;<i> - it's halfway through installing atm, i'll go to sleep and tomorrow i'll
</I>&gt;<i> continue this.
</I>
continuing:

- after installing, i rebooted
- no 2secs delay
- no F1 F2 F3 text bug, colors looks nice
- but, text and graphic of grub is updated
- choose mageia 1
- kdm displays, and looks ok
- the konsoles that were open still open fine
- indexhtml page seems still not to work (#72)
- firebug doesn't work for the 4.0 rc1 (i suppose this is the disadvantage of 
shipping firefox 4.0 branch, there is hardly any addon support) which reminds 
me, there isn't a KDE plasma notifier addon installed as well.
- all games submenus have this weird cardlike icon, even arcade and others
- the &quot;more&quot; thing is still there and in it, is the &quot;pulseaudio config 
settings&quot; ?
- the configure your computer icon is below the line in the system tools menu
- weird artifact bug when showing shutdown menu (#439)
- i sent missing rpms from mdv (#440)

voila! upgrade test complete.


&gt;<i> this was a cloned machine, so it can be retested at a later date. or in
</I>&gt;<i> different ways.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> my conclusion:
</I>&gt;<i>  - totally not ready for upgrade via DVD.
</I>&gt;<i>  - DVD upgrade method seems very unstable to me and takes way too much
</I>&gt;<i> time. - I would propose to change the DVD upgrade method, that it just
</I>&gt;<i> doesn't upgrade at all, except it installs a mgaupdate applet on the
</I>&gt;<i> mandriva, then reboots into mandriva, but sort of does an applet-y upgrade
</I>&gt;<i> there.
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