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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] base system size for next beta1</H1>
    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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    <I>Fri Mar 18 08:35:29 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 08:05, andre999 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
&gt;<i> In principle, I think it should be something required by virtually any
</I>&gt;<i> working Mageia system.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I notice &#160;that there is a &quot;basesystem-minimal&quot; and a &quot;basesystem&quot;, which
</I>&gt;<i> adds requires &quot;kernel&quot; and &quot;bootloader&quot; ?!
</I>&gt;<i> (Both of which seem kind of essential ;) )
</I>
Not if you want to create a chroot, you can then have a Mageia system
without a kernel or bootloader

&gt;<i> We should probably drop the distinction. (They are in the same source task
</I>&gt;<i> package anyway.)
</I>&gt;<i> If we keep the distinction, we could make &quot;basesystem&quot; optional, and include
</I>&gt;<i> not-absolutely-necessary-but-almost type packages. &#160;This would make it
</I>&gt;<i> easier to reduce &quot;basesystem-minimal&quot; in size.
</I>&gt;<i> (We could then maybe change the names to &quot;basesystem&quot; and &quot;basesystem-plus&quot;
</I>&gt;<i> ? )
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> At first glance, most of the requires seem pretty basic to any realistic
</I>&gt;<i> minimal Linux system.
</I>&gt;<i> The only thing I notice that is optional and somewhat big is vim (some 20M),
</I>&gt;<i> but some sort of editor is needed. &#160;And it is pretty standard in *nix type
</I>&gt;<i> environments. &#160;(Not my favorite, but even I know how to use vim.)
</I>&gt;<i> We could always find an alternative, but it has to function without X.
</I>
The point is not to check what is required directly by the package but
what is required by that dependencies
i.e. urpmq -d basesystem-minimal to check if something strange gets pulled in

&gt;<i> We could save a lot of space without the bootloader and the kernel, but that
</I>&gt;<i> would make it _really_ hard to get up and running :)
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> In sum, it's not apparent how we could save much space.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> my (meandering) 2 cents :)
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> --
</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
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