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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?</H1>
    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le lundi 14 mars 2011 &#224; 23:28 +0100, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Mon, 14 March 2011 21:49
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 13 mars 2011 &#224; 21:09 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le dimanche 13 mars 2011 21:01:15, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; s&#246;n 2011-03-13 klockan 21:55 +0200 skrev Tux99:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; During the review with my mentor Anssi of one of the
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; packages I'm working
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; on, the question came up what the appropriate repository
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for a package is
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; that's both non-free (open source but not a FOSS license)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and tainted
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (contains sw. that is covered by patents in some parts of
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the world).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Should a non-free+tainted package go in tainted, i.e. is
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the tainted repo
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for all tainted packages, both free and non-free
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; tainted, as thats a &quot;bigger&quot; issue than nonfree
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; --
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Thomas
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I would have said the opposite, so that using core + tainted you're
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; sure to 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; get free software :)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The same.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ie, a non-free may have more stringent distribution requirements than
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; free software. 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I don't understand what you mean, the packages in 'non-free' are being
</I>&gt;<i> distributed the same way as the ones in 'core' or 'tainted', i.e. on all
</I>&gt;<i> mirrors and partially on ISOs/CDs/DVDs, otherwise we wouldn't even be able
</I>&gt;<i> to include them in the repos at all.
</I>
A non-free package is also something like &quot;do not use if you are
military&quot;. We had the case in PLF. 

&gt;<i> The issue with 'non-free' is generally one of limitations on the use of the
</I>&gt;<i> software and/or source code not normally of distribution, in Mandriva the
</I>&gt;<i> software with distribution restrictions normally ends up in 'restricted'
</I>&gt;<i> not in 'non-free'.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> On the other hand a 'tainted+non-free' package has the bigger issue of
</I>&gt;<i> containing patent issues (at least for some countries) so I would assume
</I>&gt;<i> that it's a lot more important to keep 'tainted' packages clearly separate
</I>&gt;<i> for people or mirrors that don't want to risk breaking patent laws in the
</I>&gt;<i> affected countries.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> If we put 'tainted+non-free' software in 'non-free' then it will be very
</I>&gt;<i> hard for a normal user or mirror admin to recognize it as being a
</I>&gt;<i> potential patent liability.
</I>
Usually, people who do write non-free softwares on Linux ( like Adobe
for flashplayer, Oracle for Java, etc ) are also those that do
commercial business around it, and also pay the patent holder for usage,
as seen when accepting the license on installation.


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Michael Scherer

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