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    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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    <I>Fri Feb 25 02:52:53 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>On 25.02.2011 02:12, Michael Scherer wrote:
&gt;<i> Le vendredi 25 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 00:09 +0200, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 24.02.2011 21:15, Michael Scherer wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le jeudi 24 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 20:30 +0200, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> With a two-level system it would be considerably less and closer to the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ~7 you mention.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Depend, what is the process that you are wanting to improve ?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ( and closer is not good enough, even if 15 is nearer to 7 than 20,
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that's still too much and a different process is used ( according to
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> studies ))
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No idea. IMO finding the wanted application is faster when it goes
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Internet =&gt; 5-7 submenus =&gt; each with 2-5 app entries
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> instead of the current
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Internet =&gt; 20 app entries, plus 10 more in &quot;More&quot;
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Yes. But I think that what some people want is 
</I>&gt;<i> Internet =&gt; 30 apps.
</I>&gt;<i> ( ie, suppress More )
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Citing tux99 : 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &quot;I'm pretty sure that if we make a survey among Mandriva users the
</I>&gt;<i> majority will be saying they don't like apps hidden behind &quot;More&quot; as it
</I>&gt;<i> currently happens, they would want them  in the higher level with all
</I>&gt;<i> the other apps of the same type.&quot;
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> So maybe I misunderstood. 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> What need to be taken in account too is also the case 
</I>&gt;<i> Internet =&gt; 5-7 apps. 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Having :
</I>&gt;<i> Internet =&gt; 5-7 submenus =&gt; 1 app entry 
</I>&gt;<i> is IMHO clearly suboptimal.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> ( ie, 1 step more to get application , on a total of 3, that's a lot ).
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The menu style file [1] allows for &quot;inline_limit&quot; attribute which
specifies a minimum entry count before the submenu is added, otherwise
the app entries are added to the parent menu instead.

So e.g. submenus with less than 2-3 apps could be &quot;merged&quot; to parent
submenu.

[1] <A HREF="http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html">http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html</A>

-- 
Anssi Hannula
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