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    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le jeudi 24 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 13:53 +0100, J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> On 24 February 2011 13:27, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is not the number of click, but the fact that it take a longer time
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to scan the whole menu. Like reading a article with and without carriage
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; return. The number of word to read are the same, but it is easier with
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; carriage return, because this doesn't require any form of coordination
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( ie, this is not on the same cognitive level ).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am not sure if I am clear enough, but on the other hand, I fear that
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; explaining the whole topic would requires much more time, and time have
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; showed that people hate when I explain them ergonomics ( as seen on
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; various rpmdrake bugs ).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Michael, your point about ergonomics is very true in principle, but
</I>&gt;<i> there seems to be a missing link in its implementation. The two-tier
</I>&gt;<i> system, with a 'More...' submenu is very sensible, _if_ that submenu
</I>&gt;<i> contains the most rarely used entries.
</I>
That unfortunately more complex. Ie ideally, you have to track
applications usage to make this work. There is work going on with
zeitgeist and integration to gnome-shell/unity that could lead to this.
 
So in the mean time, we have to rely on guess made from packagers on
what would be the best application to use _if_ people did install more
applications and didn't remove the installed default one, nor
cleaned/move the entry ( because for some reason, it seems that no one
ever do it ).

&gt;<i>  IIRC, a bunch of proprietary
</I>&gt;<i> applications do this with self-masking menu entries. In our case
</I>&gt;<i> (mdv/mga), there is no mechanism to ensure this, as far as I know.
</I>&gt;<i> That would be a major step forward.
</I>
Well, I guess that a bug do exist for this in kde bugzilla. If not, then
maybe you could open one. 
-- 
Michael Scherer

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