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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1>
<B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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<I>Fri Jan 21 14:45:37 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>On 17.01.2011 10:38, Michael scherer wrote:
><i> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 01:19:29AM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
</I>>><i> Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
</I>>>><i> Hi all!
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to
</I>>>><i> 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all?
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any
</I>>>><i> "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that
</I>>>><i> most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including
</I>>>><i> those provided by any 3rd party packagers.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very
</I>>>><i> little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases,
</I>>>><i> but not before.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not
</I>>>><i> have these macros at all.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> What do other people think?
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> If not having those macros means we can't compile mdv SRPMS on mageia, then
</I>>><i> I'd prefer we keep it.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> then keep them forever ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Because for one, mdkversion should have disappeared when the suffix was changed,
</I>><i> something like 5 years ago. And the fact we still rely on it is not a good sign.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> More ever, even on Mandriva, most of them do not make much sense. Most of the software
</I>><i> are not backported ( as the usage of the macros is mainly for stuff replaced
</I>><i> by filetrigger ), and they are never cleaned.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On the file trigger side, we have most of the macros going back to 2009.0, where we
</I>><i> can't backport anything on the BS. And 2010.0 for the trigger for web application, and
</I>><i> I do not think we backport them usually ( as people barely see the value of packaging
</I>><i> them... ).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So I think we will not have much problem, except this force us to do more cleaning.
</I>><i> Cleaning that obviously didn't happened before, as we are needing to do it now.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So drop it, have more generic macros, and smarter policy.
</I>
The problem is not backports IMO, it is building 3rdparty src.rpm or old
src.rpm on Mageia (i.e. forward-porting), which won't work if we do not
have %mdkversion.
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Anssi Hannula
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