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<H1>[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release sound-scripts-0.61-2.mga2</H1>
<B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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<I>Mon Sep 19 12:32:55 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>><i> On 19 September 2011 11:44, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote:
</I>>>>><i> Did you fixed the war against webcam another way?
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Is this a problem of webcam mics not working if they are present during
</I>>>><i> boot? If not, can you remember the problem better?
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> If so, no I've not fixed, but will find an official way that we can
</I>>>><i> submit upstream.
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</I>>><i> Whoops, it seems this conversation went off list accidentally.
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</I>>><i> TV clarified that the problem the snd-usb-audio modprobe rule solved was
</I>>><i> that of webcams getting the card0 slot on boot and pushing the normal,
</I>>><i> built in audio system to card1.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> As this problem attempts to resolve the underlying limitations of alsa
</I>>><i> (not preserving the audio device order) in a generic way (specific
</I>>><i> index= arguments could be added to your own specific hardware to solve
</I>>><i> it also), and considering that device order really shouldn't matter when
</I>>><i> PulseAudio is used (it has it's own built in system for determining the
</I>>><i> "priority" of devices when a first boot with a new user is encountered
</I>>><i> so that the correct defaults will be picked on first boot and there
</I>>><i> after it's the user's choice), I'm not really inclined to attempt to fix
</I>>><i> this "bug".
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> If people feel super strongly about it I can look into it, but I think
</I>>><i> it's really a matter of "tough love" for the non-PA case if it means we
</I>>><i> have to put in lots of crazy work arounds like this.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Opinions welcome.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Not all people use PA.
</I>><i> We even have options in draksound in order to disable it...
</I>><i> Hence we must still support the case were PA isn't around...
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can something be done with udev rules, like it happens with other types of
devices?
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