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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] PING for bug 2160</H1>
    <B>Balcaen John</B> 
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    <I>Sun Sep 25 18:43:27 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Le Dimanche 25 Septembre 2011 12:32:59 Frank Griffin a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> On 09/25/2011 12:05 PM, Balcaen John wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le Dimanche 25 Septembre 2011 11:21:51 Frank Griffin a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; so I question why it's needed.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Because of gnome 3.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Considering that NM  activates (and fails) during network startup well
</I>&gt;<i> before GNOME ever gets into the picture, I doubt that it works any
</I>&gt;<i> better there.  Does GNOME 3 function with the older drakx support ? 
</I>&gt;<i> If so, could the requires for NM simply be removed until it works ?
</I>[...]
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</I>&gt;<i> Then why does it continue to try to manage my interfaces whether or
</I>&gt;<i> not I disable support in the ifcfg-wlan0 ?  Others have confirmed the
</I>&gt;<i> same behavior.  I'm not sure what significance &quot;not being the
</I>&gt;<i> default&quot; has here, unless you mean that we still provide support for
</I>&gt;<i> the drakx stuff.
</I>Because it's probably mis configured on your computer i guess.
For memory the first release of nm in mageia were not able to handle the 
ifcfg scripts and blino recently patch it to make it ignore/respect 
interface which were not supposed to be handled by nm.
Now with the ifcfg-rh plugin loaded before the keyfile plugin everything 
should work correctly (aka nm won't launch an interface managed by the 
drakx tools)

&gt;<i> Whether or not it is the default, just having it installed (or
</I>&gt;<i> possibly started by init, based on comments in the bug) is sufficient
</I>&gt;<i> to break wireless on many systems.
</I>Well we're supposed/trying to switch to systemd &amp; currently (on systemd) 
it is not started automatically.
&amp; Even if it was started automatically according to the blino patch it 
should not start/enable the wrong interface anymore.

But the good solution might be to drop gnome3 so we won't have to 
provide nm at all :) (said with my kde maintainer hat :p )

Regards,


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Balcaen John
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