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<B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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<PRE>Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 20:45:03, Michael Scherer a écrit :
><i> Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 à 17:50 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
</I>><i> > Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 16:46:19, Michael scherer a écrit :
</I>><i> > > Hi,
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > so tonight, meeting time ( packager, bug triager, QA, and all
</I>><i> > > are invited, and there will be free food in the fridge ( not
</I>><i> > > mine, but yours, of course )).
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > Planning :
</I>><i> > > - security updates ( ennael || misc )
</I>><i> > > - maintainers assignation ( misc )
</I>><i> > > - apprentice ( andre )
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > And that would be IMHO enough for this evening ( short, etc )
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > I don't know if it's the right meeting for it, but I would like us to
</I>><i> > talk again about bug 2317 <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317</A>
</I>><i> > that blocks updates
</I>><i> > We tried to previously chosen solution "link from Release to Updates",
</I>><i> > but we run into dependency nightmares such as in the end the solution
</I>><i> > would almost lead to copy the whole Release media into Updates.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Without proof of the contrary, I tend to think that fixing MageiaUpdate
</I>><i> > would be a lot less work than the workaround we are trying to use which
</I>><i> > : - still needs work from the sysadmins
</I>><i> > - gives a lot of work to QA, that would be better used for testing the
</I>><i> > updates - forces us to link a lot of packages if we really want to make
</I>><i> > sure the update never fails
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > What I would like is a firm and courageous decision (we already talked a
</I>><i> > lot of this issue without much progress until now) that we set a date
</I>><i> > (soon) before which this problem will be completely solved, whatever the
</I>><i> > way.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > We really would like to have this issue solved and allow to concentrate
</I>><i> > on other important stuff (such as security updates for example).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> If no one does the patch, nothing will move. And I doubt that telling
</I>><i> "do the patch" would make it appear, but I can try :
</I>><i> Samuel, can you produce a fix for the 18th september ?
</I>
Well, I thought we have a couple people capable of tweaking urpmi's code very
very better than me, but yes, I can try to move earth and heavens, ask for
help because I don't know urpmi and MageiaUpdate's code at all, and try to
make sure the problem is fixed soon. I'll say "the problem must be fixed before
the 18th of september, please help me doing it right or you risk having me do
it"
Or I could trick someone into becoming the maintainer and tell him/her to fix
the bug per the packager team leaders' will
I think you underestimate the power of a decision. Once a decision has been
taken, then your "minions" can stop chatting and move together towards the
goal. The objective is clear, the the saying "when there's a will there's a
way" is often really true.
So, who can help me ? tv ? blino ? pterjan ?
Best regards
Samuel Verschelde
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