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<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<I>Mon Oct 31 18:47:36 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 31/10/11 17:06 did gyre and gimble:
><i> Michael Scherer skrev 31.10.2011 18:07:
</I>>><i> Le dimanche 30 octobre 2011 à 14:19 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit :
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> I'm saying moving the stuff that is _really_ needed, not based on "udev
</I>>>><i> might run"...
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> well, thinking some more on it I guess the real design flaw (not systemd
</I>>>><i> specific) is using all of udev in init. Init should not care about more
</I>>>><i> than getting disc access (and probably network for pxe boots)
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> That's the point that Lennart make, ie :
</I>>><i> "we used to have / to mount all partition and /usr to be mounted, now,
</I>>><i> we have initramfs to mount /, and then / to mount /usr, so it would be
</I>>><i> simpler to merge / and /usr"
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</I>><i>
</I>><i> -ENOTCONVINCED
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:<i>)
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><i> Just have initramfs mount / and /usr, no need to merge.
</I>
Yes, this is exactly what is intended, but it depends on the use case:
For simple installs, such as on my laptop or typical "desktop" linux,
then having separate / and /usr is something I've specifically avoided
for just about ever (I sometimes have separate /boot for "complicated
rootfs" reasons and I almost always have a separate /home, but other
than that, I like to keep my desktops/laptops simple). In other words
there just are not sufficient benefits in doing this.
But on the server, especially on a farm of servers with a potentially
shared /usr across several machines, then yes, keeping it as something
that can be mounted by the initramfs is perfectly feasible. This is a
specific use case that Lennart + Co are trying to design for.
Col
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