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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . .</H1>
    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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<PRE>Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
&gt;<i> On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on Mageia, you can already do it now, there's no need to have a voting
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system to consider it.
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</I>&gt;<i> Sorry Nicolas - I would if I knew how, but unfortunately I am not a
</I>&gt;<i> packager nor am I a developer with intimate knowledge of Mageia - I am
</I>&gt;<i> simply a power user who enjoys testing the latest (cauldron) and giving
</I>&gt;<i> feedback.
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Ah... and there it is...

This is how most threads like this ends up...

Many users seems to forget this is a community driven distribution,
so if you want something no-one of the current maintainers care
about, you need to do the work, and stop expecting others to do
it for you (unless you pay them)...


So here is a few general points for all users to think about:

* &quot;I am not a packager&quot;
   - so what stops you from becoming one?
   - everyone have had to start somewhere.
   - we have packagers that takes on apprentices,
     and you can always ask questions on mageia-dev@ ml
     and #mageia-dev on irc if you get stuck.

* &quot;I am not a developer&quot;
   - for many packages you dont need to be a &quot;developer&quot; as
     upstream is doing the development, so you only need to
     be a packager and check if things are fixed upstream
     and so on.

* &quot;I dont have time...&quot;
   - then how can you expect others to use their own time
     to do it for you if they dont care about the thing you
     want...


Point is... our &quot;nobody&quot; maintainer is already overworked
with over 2000 packages to take care of. So he/she does not
want more work.


And thinking about skype/teamviewer/...
If we want to help...

They dont need to be packaged. Just start a page on the
wiki listing apps, where to get them, how to install them,
and so on...
Note! This page needs to be _maintained_ then too :)
Otherwise people can just google it.

--
Thomas
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