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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] qemu new upstream release (1.0-rc1) and should we move from qemu-kvm to qemu?</H1>
    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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<PRE>On 16.11.2011 12:53, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
&gt;<i> On 16.11.2011 06:44, Buchan Milne wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday, 16 November 2011 05:30:05 Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 14.11.2011 14:53, Buchan Milne wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>     ( and given the discussion
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on ml, it should be soon )
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> When I ask the developers, they don't know if qemu will include the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> patch at all and when (now or after one year) and they suggested 
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to do
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the openSUSE way (today the most recommended and full featured Linux
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distro for GNS3).
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OK. So if gns3 can't be fixed for the stable - than should be removed
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> from the repos (for ISOs is to late).
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If we don't provide qemu patch, then gns3 should be removed from
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cauldron as well.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I believe removing GNS3 is better than keeping it broken and.. 
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> irritate
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> people (I don't count the opinion of our quality). Later some 3rd 
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> party
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> repos can provide GNS3 and its dependencies.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You seem to imply that the only use of GNS3 is with this qemu patch.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's possible to simulate and play without qemu.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should be &quot;Suggested&quot; by GNS3, but then what is the idea of
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> suggesting qemu that isn't working at all? I simply don't know why to
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distribute a program that provides support in GUI for something that's
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not working.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Uh, because you can use GNS3 for a lot of things without qemu.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I used it for simulating a 4-router network with just dynamips.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, either I don't understand what you are trying to achieve, or why 
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you want
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to *prevent* people from emulating routers with GNS3.
</I>&gt;<i> If I do *import* dynamips into Mageia then I want to *prevent* people 
</I>&gt;<i> from emulating? No, I want to distribute fullfeatured software, where 
</I>&gt;<i> everything is *well-rounded* - and not *missing*/*broken*.
</I>And providing it via 3rd party repo as fullfeatured is much better than 
via official resources but limited. Is this also preventing? If someone 
will need it, then will find information how to use GNS3 with Mageia.
&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Buchan
</I>&gt;<i>
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