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<H1>[Mageia-dev] [RFC] prefer dma rather than postfix in prefer.vendor.list for msec mga1 -> mga2 upgrade</H1>
<B>Florian Hubold</B>
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<I>Wed Nov 9 22:36:12 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>Am 09.11.2011 21:41, schrieb Anssi Hannula:
><i> On 09.11.2011 22:34, Florian Hubold wrote:
</I>>><i> Am 09.11.2011 20:48, schrieb Michael Scherer:
</I>>>><i> Le mercredi 09 novembre 2011 à 19:38 +0100, Florian Hubold a écrit :
</I>>>>><i> Hi there,
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> as Anssi made me aware msec currently has a Requires on
</I>>>>><i> sendmail-command for cauldron, this was the outcome of the
</I>>>>><i> last discussion about msec / MTA.
</I>>>>><i> However, currently in /etc/urpmi/prefer.vendor.list postfix
</I>>>>><i> is preferred as sendmail-command and mail-server.
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Anssi's vote and mine is to replace preference on postfix
</I>>>>><i> with dma to ensure users get dma installed with the
</I>>>>><i> upgrade from Mageia 1 -> 2 and not postfix which needs
</I>>>>><i> configuration.
</I>>>><i> What configuration ?
</I>>>><i> AFAIK, Postfix work out of the box for the use case of msec/cron, mail
</I>>>><i> sent to root are delivered to root mailbox, unless someone added a
</I>>>><i> aliase.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> From a quick look at dma, it behave the same ( ie, it take aliase from
</I>>>><i> the same file, thus requiring the same configuration, or needing the
</I>>>><i> same declaration of a smart host ).
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Wouldn't it be better to send everything to /var/log if no mta are
</I>>>><i> found ?
</I>>>><i> ( ie, do something like that :
</I>>>><i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoMTA">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoMTA</A> ). We have the proper
</I>>>><i> version of cronie ( I hope ), so what prevent us ?
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> msec already sends everything also to /var/log, which was disregarded
</I>>><i> in last discussion because normal users don't look there and it
</I>>><i> slowly adds up on diskspace.
</I>><i> Normal users also do not read local mailboxes and the mailboxes slowly
</I>><i> add up on diskspace.
</I>><i>
</I>Well, normal users requested this.
Still this doesn't answer what to do about the migration mga1->2,
which you asked about on IRC. So what do we do about it?
Your opinion seems we should remove sendmail-command
Require from msec, and let it only write to /var/log/security
and not do anything as it was before?
Then i wonder why we had the discussion about msec
and MTA in the first place.
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