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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal of a backporting process</H1>
    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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<PRE>2011/6/25 Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
&gt;<i> On 25 June 2011 22:15, Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 25 juin 2011 21:22:20, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 25 June 2011 19:33, Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 24 juin 2011 21:39:51, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 24 June 2011 02:09, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; - Someone request a backport ( by bugzilla, by madb, by a email, by
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; taking a packager family in hostage, whatever ). I would prefer use
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; bugzilla but this may not be very user friendly, or too heavy.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; How would the packager get notified of backports requests via madb?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; There are several options :
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - option 1 : maintainers prefer to have all backports requests in
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; bugzilla. Madb will then create backports requests via XML-RPC, with the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; original reporter in CC maybe, and regularly watch bug report status.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; This will be extra work on madb's side and force those users (who maybe
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; don't know how to use bugzilla) to use 1 tool for the request and a
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; different tool for testing reports, but why not.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - option 2 : maintainers are OK to use bugzilla for bugs and madb for
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; package requests =&gt; madb will query the maintainers database and notify
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; the maintainer(s) by mail. It could, like bugzilla, send notifications
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; to a ML too, and provide a simple yet sufficient tracking system
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; (status, comments).
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Would you elaborate on how bugzilla is heavy for a backports request?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Heavy I don't know, but I think that we can give users a better tool to
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; request backports, see what backports already have been requested, etc.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, but what's wrong with bugzilla and better in the other tool?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bugzilla is an issue tracker, and is centered on that concept. I think that a
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> simple &quot;request backport&quot; button in a package database browsing application
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can be easier and more efficient, in that the &quot;need&quot; will be more easily
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> transmitted from the user to the packager. The backports requests we get today
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (and got back in mandriva) don't represent the majority of needs. I'd like to
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see what happens if users have a dead simple way to request them.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> You want to interface for users, so that they don't have to deal with
</I>&gt;<i> a 1minute-to-fill bug report to request a backport... that's your
</I>&gt;<i> prerogative, I don' have a problem with that as long as it works.
</I>
The &quot;Request Backport Button&quot; could be a solution for non-english
speakers. They can not use Bugzilla because they can not write in
English to make their request understood, but they can find the
package name in a database and understand the function of a button
which reads &quot;Backport&quot;.

-- 
wobo
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