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<B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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<PRE>2011/6/15 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>>:
><i> Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 18:17 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
</I>>><i> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:09:23 +0200
</I>>><i> Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>
</I>>><i> wrote:
</I>>><i> >
</I>>><i> >  - gmane is clumsy, slow - my tests last September/October reveilled
</I>>><i> > that with an active list you see 2 replies in the list before the
</I>>><i> > initial mail is available in gmane. So, people using gmane for posting
</I>>><i> > will always be behind and may destroy a thread or reply to already
</I>>><i> > obsolete points. There were also missing mails in the middle of
</I>>><i> > threads which made it unusable for me.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> My experience with gmane is different. Yes it lags a bit but usually by
</I>>><i> a couple of minutes. Unless you want to use your mailing-list as some
</I>>><i> kind of real-time communication channel (you shouldn't ;-)), this is ok.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> gmane's Web UI is not great but its NNTP gateway, OTOH, works fine for
</I>>><i> me, both for reading and posting, using claws-mail as my NNTP client.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> And the fact that it doesn't ask you to sign for any kind of account is
</I>>><i> really nice.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> For the record, I looked at nntp servers when we started the project as
</I>><i> it seemed promising and was used by students in a school near my home.
</I>><i> But from a sysadmin point of view, there isn't much choice :
</I>><i> - there is inn, and some friends told me scary stories about it
</I>><i> - cyrus support nntpd but I didn't understood to what extend
</I>><i> - there is various half finished servers on freshmeat
</I>><i> - there is proprietary servers ( used by giganews, etc )
</I>><i> - there is lots of libraries
</I>><i> - there is server that do not fullfill our need ( leafnode )
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So while it would help a lot ( as you can subscribe to lists using a
</I>><i> rich interface without much hassle, get older mails, and unsubscribe at
</I>><i> will ), it was not easy to do.
</I>
Wow, that puts me back in time more than a decade, when I spent time
setting up inn on a remote server and leafnode as a local server,
using Emacs/Gnus as client! :) As much as I appreciated the technical
quality of this whole system, I would not go through these ordeals
today. Well, leafnode was easy as a pie, but remembering inn still
makes my neck hairs stand up and everybody knows that Emacs/Gnus is
The Beast by definition!
--
wobo
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