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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum</H1>
<B>Frank Griffin</B>
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<I>Tue Jun 14 16:42:16 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>On 06/14/2011 10:22 AM, Lee Forest wrote:
><i> On 06/14/2011 10:03 AM, Frank Griffin wrote:
</I>>><i> That's not caused by an ML, it's caused by people being lazy and
</I>>><i> quoting the entire message to which they're replying, which is a
</I>>><i> breach of netiquette. As is top-posting :-)
</I>><i> Android mail does that by default.
</I>So does Thunderbird. That's no reason to not prune the quote.
><i> But that just proves my other point.
</I>><i> Half the time these replies complaining about top posting, lazyness, or
</I>><i> 'netiquette' are being shot back instead of useful respones.
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Well, aside from the fact that nobody here "owes" you a reply, and that
you're lucky to get one at all if you abuse the rules of the ML, forums
use considerably more system resource than text-based MLs as regards
footprint of the servers and clients and bandwidth.
Unnecessarily-quoted text is only a resource problem to archiving
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You don't have to receive emails to be registered on most MLs. You can
register, which allows you to post to the ML, and opt to receive no mail
from the list, then use the archives to read what you want.
><i> Don't count on the users to use
</I>><i> 'netiquette' because its been long proven that 'common sense is not all
</I>><i> that common', and its by definition 'insane' to expect everyone to use
</I>><i> it. Because it will always be a problem with some new users who are new
</I>><i> to mailing lists.
</I>
Nobody here is "counting" on anything. People who don't bother to
follow netiquette will generally just be ignored after the first few
violations, which doesn't bother the rest of us a bit.
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