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<PRE>Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Le lundi 13 juin 2011 00:52:18, andre999 a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello to everyone,
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm sure there's someone among you who wants to help Mageia but hasn't
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> found yet the good way to do it. Today is your lucky day, because
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there's a job that's available and can be really useful and interesting:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> coordinating the packagers mentoring program.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You know that one key point of success for Mageia is in the ability to
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> welcome new packagers. The better we will be at it, the better the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distro will be. The packagers mentoring program has been created for
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that reason and several packagers have been or are being mentored. But
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> we have some difficulty knowing who is being mentored by who and who
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> hasn't found a mentor. And we need also to find more mentors and more
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> apprentices.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> During a packagers weekly meeting, misc invited us to read the following
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> article about mentoring programs in open-source projects:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/">http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/</A>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Very interesting, especially many of the comments.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I invite those who haven't read it yet, to read it. I'll quote one of the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mentoring best practices that were given: &quot;In bigger projects, keeping
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> track of who is a mentor, and who is mentoring who, and inviting new
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mentors, and ensuring that no-one falls through the cracks when a mentor
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gets too busy, is a job of itself.&quot;
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm looking for someone who could fill that &quot;job&quot;.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Description of the job:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - keep track of:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- who's being mentored by who, how well it's going
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- who needs a mentor and hasn't found one yet (this is one of the most
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> important parts: no volunteer must be forgotten, volunteers are too
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> precious !)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- who can mentor more apprentices (and sometimes convince packagers to
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> become mentors or accept one more apprentice)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - be available for questions from apprentices or mentors, by mail, and if
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> possible, to be present on the IRC channel #mageia-mentoring on freenode
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - help mentors with gathering &quot;junior tasks&quot; (bugzilla is a never empty
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reserve that can be used for that. Maybe ask the bug triage team to help
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> identify such tasks. Maybe a &quot;junior task&quot; keyword in bugzilla would do
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the trick)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- small bugs to fix
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- new small packages to import in the distribution
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- backports
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - promote mentoring (empower users into contributers. Working with the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> marketing team would be great I think):
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- make the mentoring program known (MLs, forums, web, etc.)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- look for new apprentices
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- look for new mentors
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Some useful skills:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - be autonomous (ie no need to check that you're doing the work)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - good written english (communication is very important in this job)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - knowledge about packaging is a plus but not mandatory (the key aspects
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can be taught to you)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - being or having been a mentor, or having been mentored would be a plus,
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but not mandatory
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> More information about the job:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - does not require a big amount of work, but real committment to the task
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and regularity
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - remember that you have a coordination role, not an authoritative role.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The difference in that is that you're not here to give orders but to
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> facilitate the mentoring program.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - you don't have to be alone to do this job if it's too much for one
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> person: you can find other helpful people wanting to help you if needed
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and rely on the other teams (but finding them *is* part of your job ;)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ).
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -  this &quot;job offer&quot; concerns everything that revolves around the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mentoring of new packagers, but if it's successful maybe other teams can
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> follow the same approach (i18n, QA, etc... ).
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -  depending on your level of confidence, experience and will, you could
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be helped in your work. Maybe someone from the council can supervise and
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> help you at least at the beginning; or, if no one steps up, I can help
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you bootstrap and organize your new &quot;job&quot;.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, who's in?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That is an excellent idea, a mentoring program coordinator.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've had some thoughts along those lines for some time.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd be glad to contribute, especially via email and editing the wiki, where
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I could almost always respond the same day.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But my time zone availability (generally after 22h utc) puts me at a
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> disadvantage for irc communications and meetings.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (But as part of a coordinating team, that should work well.)
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maintaining the mentor/apprentice database, as Kharec suggested, is to me a
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> key part of the role. Information such as mentors available, and their
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> strengths/focus, usual time zones available, communication modes
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> preferred, languages spoken, and current apprentices, Would-be apprentices
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should have similar information listed.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not much different from the information currently in variously wiki pages,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but maintained by the coordinator in one location.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;aside&gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One thing that occurred to me is that there is no imperative that mentoring
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> process happens only in English.  If an apprentice is more comfortable in
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another language, and they find a mentor speaking that language, why not ?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   Sure, it is useful to have basic English knowledge, but it is evident
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that many (if not most) contributors speak English as a second language.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;/aside&gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Experience packaging, either as a mentor or apprentice is highly
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recommended in my view, at least for the key person.  (My experience is as
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a apprentice with Shikamaru -- an excellent mentor, btw -- and my time
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> zone availability is probably why I haven't officially completed the
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> process.) Also some programming experience could be useful.  (I imagine
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that most candidates would have that.)
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But also mentoring can apply to other things than packaging.  So maybe we
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should give a broader scope to the mentoring coordinator job ?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Including bugteam, QA, as well as packaging.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That would make it more useful, as well as more interesting.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (I would be very interested in contributing to something like that.)
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So what does everyone think ?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for the input, but there's one point that's still unclear to me : do
</I>&gt;<i> you candidate for the job ? :p
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> (the timezone question can be a problem, but not necessarily a blocking one)
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
</I>
Yes :)
It's an important task, and I think I would do it well.
With my (albeit somewhat limited) packaging experience and getting to better know the community, I 
have a much better understanding of the whole Mageia development process than I did even a few 
months ago.  And how this fits in.

-- 
Andr&#233;
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