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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion</H1>
<B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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<PRE>Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 00:08:56 schreef David W. Hodgins:
><i> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:28:04 -0400, Renaud MICHEL
</I><<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
><i> > On lundi 13 juin 2011 at 23:06, Thorsten van Lil wrote :
</I>><i> >> A rolling release has following advantages:
</I>><i> >> 1. the distribution is always up to date (also hardware support)
</I>><i> >> 2. no re-install over and over again
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > I don't get it why people think a re-install is necessary.
</I>><i> > My current computer was installed with mandriva 2007 (don't remember if
</I>><i> > it was .0 or .1), it is now mageia 1 and has been updated to all
</I>><i> > intermediary mdv releases.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> My currently running install started as Mdv 2009.1, updated via urpmi to
</I>><i> 2010.2, then converted to Mageia cauldron during beta 1.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> With a little over 4400 packages, the upgrade from one release to the next
</I>><i> takes over 8 hours, on this single core Celeron processor, so even though
</I>><i> it's not an actual re-install, it still feels like one. /usr alone is 13GB.
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I have a similar machine, but updated through the applet, which means it only
takes about 1hour and you can work in the main time and reboot when you want.
i don't understand why users would be expressly wanting rolling release when
you don't need to reinstall, or "upgrade" in a traditional sense at all...
><i> One possibly annoying part about that, is that there are many rpm packages
</I>><i> where the only obvious change is the version. I understand that for many
</I>><i> of the packages, they have to be rebuilt due to perl/python/glib version
</I>><i> changes, but anyone who doesn't know that will see what seems like a lot
</I>><i> of unneeded updates.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> One con of a rolling release has been demonstrated by Cauldron over the
</I>><i> last few days. With the perl/gnome updates, it takes a few days for all
</I>><i> of the needed packages to get built. For a couple of days, running urpmi
</I>><i> with --auto-select wanted to remove most of gnome. I waited till the
</I>><i> needed packages were available, whereas a less technical user may have
</I>><i> ended up removing key parts of their desktop manager.
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</I>><i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
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