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<H1>[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files</H1>
<B>Olav Vitters</B>
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<I>Fri Jun 10 17:09:51 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:35:57PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
><i> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> >On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:15:01PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
</I>><i> >>><A HREF="https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/RemovingLaFiles">https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/RemovingLaFiles</A>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>"... but the dirty hacks that jhbuild plays ..."
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>Problems with dirty hacks are NOT a valid reason to remove libtool
</I>><i> >>convenience libraries aka .la files.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> >Seems you skipped the initial bit, where it explains that the .la has
</I>><i> >the full path.
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</I>><i> What's wrong with those paths? I'm saying the problem is in
</I>><i> gnome-shell, not in the .la files.
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You snipped the paragraph which explains it.
To repeat: If you link against 1 system lib, the .la files will make it
link to /usr/lib stuff, instead of the self compiled gtk or anything
like that. If the .la does not exist (all of them), it links correctly.
><i> >>>Seems some distributions misunderstand the need and changed the wiki
</I>><i> >>>page. Removing .la files is needed however, otherwise you'll quickly mix
</I>><i> >>>distribution installed libraries and self-compiled libraries.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>What are you talking about here?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <gnome-shell stuff>
</I>
It is not gnome-shell, it is jhbuild and doing development (mainly
GNOME). Basic GNOME already has ~200 modules.
><i> So you are really talking only about gnome-shell, which I can't even
</I>><i> test because apparently it doesn't work in a VM. It is now packaged,
</I>><i> so you don't need to build it.
</I>
Nope, I'm talking about doing development using jhbuild. E.g. if you
want to contribute to GNOME, you'll have to get rid of all the .la
files no matter which distribution you use.
A new GNOME does not happen automatically. It requires people to compile
the Git versions and committing stuff until a tarball is released and
packaged.
Making such development easier would result in a better GNOME, and I
don't mind if the .la files stay, but prefer if they are removed.
Jhbuild is also used by Wayland and Hildon btw.
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Olav
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