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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?</H1>
<B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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<I>Fri Jun 10 13:57:54 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath skrev 10.6.2011 14:44:
><i> 2011/6/10 Michael Scherer<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>>:
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> We have used backports in the past for that, and I see no reason to
</I>>><i> change that.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> If the problem is that backports were too buggy in the past, then we
</I>>><i> should fix backports process, not bypassing them.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> And if we start by pushing new version in update, people will soon
</I>>><i> wonder why the new version of X is in updates, while the new version of
</I>>><i> Y is not, just because we didn't have X in release and Y was there.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Problem I see:
</I>><i> So far (in Mandriva), example: we have used 2010.0/main/backports to
</I>><i> offer new versions of software which had an older version in 2010/main
</I>><i> but the newer version in 2010.1/main, or as the name says: backporting
</I>><i> a newer version of a software from the current release to a previous
</I>><i> release, as often used for Firefox.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> For Mageia it means, /backports should hold backports of software
</I>><i> which has an older version in 1/core but a newer version in cauldron.
</I>><i> If we put new software (aka missing packages) in /backports and the
</I>><i> user activates /backports he also runs the risk that existing packages
</I>><i> of his stable installation will be replaced by real backports of newer
</I>><i> versions, backported from Cauldron - which he may not want to do.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I wonder why we do not put these "missing packages" in /testing and
</I>><i> after a while in /core or /non-free or /tainted (wherever they
</I>><i> belong). These packages are software which were supposed to be in
</I>><i> /core or /non-free or /tainted, they were just forgotten|came too
</I>><i> late|whatever for Mageia 1 release freeze.
</I>><i>
</I>
well, media/*/release tree is frozen, so _nothing_ new goes in there.
So the path would then be */updates_testing -> */updates _if_ we decide
that's the way to go...
Problem is that a "missing" package introcuced in updates also can
introduce regressions with wrong obsoletes/provides or %pre/%post scripts.
So it has to go through the same qa as the rest of the stuff heading for
*/updates
So question becomes, do we have enough qa/security people to make it work ?
And if we introduce "filtering" on what goes in and what does not,
then who decides ?
--
Thomas
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