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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?</H1>
    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 09/06/11 11:03 did gyre and gimble:
&gt;<i> 2011/6/9 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 09/06/11 10:40 did gyre and
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gimble:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 9 Jun 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> otoh, perhaps a missing package is also a bugfix... maybe we could
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> file bug
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reports for missing packages and go through the updates route...
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Filing bug reports is not a bad idea, even if the new package will go to
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> backports. Just explain a little why it is important (to fix this in a
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stable release).
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We probably need a new &quot;version&quot; in bugzilla because mga1+backports is
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> basically a new distro. A bug in backports shouldn't be filed against
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;1&quot; IMHO.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> There's already a lot of requests for missing packages in Bugzilla,
</I>&gt;<i> the question about filing such bug reports was answered long ago.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As I said in my original mail I really don't think backports is the
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> right approach.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd prefer to have a 3rd party repo than abuse backports to get the
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> missing packages.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I thought we will try to avoid 3rd party repos?
</I>
Yes we did, but I still think it would be better than using backports as
backports is very specifically &quot;not-supported updates&quot; and if users have
to add that media to get the missing packages then IMO this is very
dangerous. Hence my statement that it would *prefer* to use a 3rd party
repo over using backports as it is safer for the user. It doesn't mean
to say I like the idea in an absolute sense.

My *preferred* (i.e. absolute, not relative) is to use updates, but
without the QA burden and overhead.

Hope that clarifies.

Col



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