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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron</H1>
    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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<PRE>Radu-Cristian FOTESCU skrev 16.7.2011 13:47:
&gt;<i> tmb, I hate you.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> making kernel-desktop-latest to point to
</I>&gt;<i> kernel-desktop-3.0.0-0.rc7.2.1.mga2 instead of
</I>&gt;<i> kernel-desktop-devel-2.6.38.8-5.mga2 was a big mistake.
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Nope. It was intended, planned, tested and announced before:
<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006681.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006681.html</A>

&gt;<i> there should have been something like kernel-desktop-latest3 for a
</I>&gt;<i> while, to let people test that 3.0 thing (rc, right? I know this is
</I>&gt;<i> cauldron, but I'd still prefer a kernel that works) while still having a
</I>&gt;<i> 2.6 kernel.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
You still have the 2.6.38.8 kernel installed so you can boot it if 3.0 
does not work.

&gt;<i> this 3.0 kernel is a piece of crap. my acer laptop behaves hectically
</I>&gt;<i> (now I have a mouse, now it's frozen, now the system claims it will
</I>&gt;<i> reboot, now I have to press the power button for 5 seconds to shutdown
</I>&gt;<i> it), bcm4311 doesn't work even with the correct firmware in
</I>&gt;<i> /lib/firmware/b43, a fully-fledged pita.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
Have you filed bugreports here or upstream ?

&gt;<i> reverting to 2.6.38.8-5 brought back the joy (and the wireless internet).
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> but I suppose there won't be any update to the 2.6.38.8 kernel, right?
</I>
Nope.

&gt;<i> even for an unstable thing like cauldron this is rather wrong, because
</I>&gt;<i> 3.0.0 is not a released kernel as of yet. and a working kernel is a
</I>&gt;<i> precondition to a working distro.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
Well it works here. (and for many other Cauldron users).

and both i586 and x86_64 kernels were tested on a i7-860 workstation and 
on a Acer TravelMate 5720  laptop before submitting to the buildsystem...


&gt;<i> forcing an rc-something as the current kernel is... unbenevolent
</I>&gt;<i> dictatorship.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
There is no forcing...
the old kernel is still installed so you can use it if you need.

And if you dont like automatic kernel upgrades, uninstall kernel-*-latest


&gt;<i> yeah, I know, fedora rawhide and kubuntu 11.10 also have this
</I>&gt;<i> 3.0.0-rc7-crap sort of thing. so you can't have the latest packages
</I>&gt;<i> (including the latest kde) w/o having a broken kernel. sigh.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> but my message stands. tmb, I hate you for pushing this kernel as a
</I>&gt;<i> forced update via kernel-desktop-latest.
</I>&gt;<i>
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Thanks

its always good to know my work is appreciated...

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Thomas

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