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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Adobe Flash player 11 Beta 1 in Cauldron</H1>
    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le samedi 16 juillet 2011 &#224; 10:57 +0300, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> On 16 July 2011 02:57, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 15 juillet 2011 &#224; 11:10 +0300, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As you've seen the thread, posted by Charles A Edwards, there's a new
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; version of flash which has native 64bit support, it's still in beta
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; but seems to work well, some questions:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - Any objections about offering it in mga1?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, I do.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's a beta, and stable is not a dumping ground for that.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Right, let's do a head count:
</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 64bit users who are using the 64bit Adobe Flash 11 Beta 1,
</I>&gt;<i> please raise your hand (my hand is raised already, I've been using it
</I>&gt;<i> for 2-3 days).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> The point, if there's no other easy way to watch flash for 64bit users
</I>&gt;<i> without jumping through hoops (using nspluginwrapper, which is
</I>&gt;<i> occasionally problematic, or using a 32bit browser on an x86_64
</I>&gt;<i> system, which entails installing some more 32bit libs), there's a good
</I>&gt;<i> chance they'll use flash 11, alpha/beta/rc is still better than the
</I>&gt;<i> hoops.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Also we're talking about pushing it to backports, not updates.
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I think we were all agreeing to raise confidence in backports.

I think we can also all agree that if Adobe say that's a beta version,
they are likely more knowledgeable than us about this too.

Is the plugin supported by adobe ? Being still beta, I would say it is
not for now.

Some of us may have forgot, but they did withdraw the 64 bits version
plugin in the past with any communication, because it was insecure and
unsupported, and already a beta version.

We can also agree that taking the same policy regarding backporting than
at Mandriva will just yield the same result, ie saying &quot;it is not
supported, so use it at your own risk&quot;.

And so, if we want to send the message &quot;backports are supported&quot;, we
should just act accordingly, and not send unsupported softwares to it.

The plugin may work fine now on the machine of everybody, it would still
be unsupported by adobe.

-- 
Michael Scherer

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