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<H1>[Mageia-dev] gstreamer packaging too split?</H1>
<B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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<I>Tue Jul 5 11:50:15 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>On 5 July 2011 11:04, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote:
><i> Hi,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I see packages like gstreamer0.10-soup installed as separate packages.
</I>><i> Is there any real gain from this split? Other than pulling in other
</I>><i> libraries etc, as it just causes potential problems for some packages
</I>><i> that do not require it. e.g. totem and rhythmbox both reqire the -soup
</I>><i> package but phonon-gstreamer does not (it should).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But really, should this library just be bundled into the main -good
</I>><i> package?
</I>
I agree about merging -soup, without it gst-based apps can't seem to
play online streams, this is a basic functionality, I guess.
><i> Ditto for other "overly split" things, like the pulse plugin,
</I>><i> and the neon plugin in -bad....
</I>><i>
</I>
I dunno about pulse, it would pull pulseaudio on users' systems (I
know it's installed by default, but some do a minimal install and
don't install pulse, even if the some of pulse libs are too dug deep
down the whole stack :)).
><i> Has anyone sad down and thought about it a bit recently (here or in Mdv?)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Col
</I>><i>
</I>
(I have to admit, I didn't sit down and think about it before). Here goes:
===========================
-good:
$ urpmf --sourcerpm gstreamer0.10-plugins-good | awk -F: '{print $1}'
gstreamer0.10-caca
gstreamer0.10-raw1394
gstreamer0.10-soup
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
gstreamer0.10-dv
gstreamer0.10-wavpack
gstreamer0.10-pulse
gstreamer0.10-jack
gstreamer0.10-speex
gstreamer0.10-aalib
gstreamer0.10-flac
I think these can be merged in addition to -soup:
-flac, an open format, expected to work o-o-t-b, IMHO
-jack, doesn't matter really, it won't pull any more requires as
libjack.so.0 is deep in the stack anyway (just tested with urpme
--test and it wanted to yank 174 packages).
As for the rest I am not sure, e.g. I've never used -wavpack, so I
think they can remain split.
=========================
-ugly looks OK to me.
$ urpmf --sourcerpm gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly | awk -F: '{print $1}'
gstreamer0.10-sid
gstreamer0.10-twolame
gstreamer0.10-a52dec
gstreamer0.10-cdio
gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
gstreamer0.10-mpeg
Though merging -a52dec looks like a good idea given how widely used
the AC-3 codec is.
==========================
I left the "bad" for last, they look OK too, each sub-package
pulls/requires a different lib (e.g. rtmp -> librtmp.so.0), I guess
that's a good splitting criteria; I've never used -neon so I'll take
your word for it :)
$ urpmf --sourcerpm gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad | awk -F: '{print $1}' |
grep -v lib
gstreamer0.10-rtmp
gstreamer0.10-nas
gstreamer0.10-rsvg
gstreamer0.10-soundtouch
gstreamer0.10-musepack
gstreamer0.10-gsm
gstreamer0.10-resindvd
gstreamer0.10-kate
gstreamer0.10-neon
gstreamer0.10-voip
gstreamer0.10-jp2k
gstreamer0.10-ladspa
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-doc
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
gstreamer0.10-celt
gstreamer0.10-schroedinger
gstreamer0.10-mms
gstreamer0.10-dc1394
gstreamer0.10-directfb
gstreamer0.10-dirac
gstreamer0.10-ofa
gstreamer0.10-wildmidi
gstreamer0.10-gme
gstreamer0.10-vdpau
gstreamer0.10-mpeg2enc
gstreamer0.10-vp8
gstreamer0.10-cog
gstreamer0.10-curl
(A bit off-topic, I think -nas should be deprecated, NAS doesn't seem
that used lately?).
><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> --
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Colin Guthrie
</I>><i> mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Day Job:
</I>><i>  Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>]
</I>><i> Open Source:
</I>><i>  Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>]
</I>><i>  PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>]
</I>><i>  Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>]
</I>><i>
</I>
--
Ahmad Samir
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