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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring	program coordinator</H1>
    <B>Daniel Kreuter</B> 
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    <I>Mon Jul  4 09:37:01 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>On 07/04/2011 08:28 AM, andre999 wrote:
&gt;<i> nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 01 Jul 2011, andre999 wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 01:07:00, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> [...]
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't think there's a need for restricted access, and it would be
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> opposite to the way we try to do everything in the open.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What you need is
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) a way to be contacted directly by those who need (apprentices)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2) a way to discuss within members of the team, but maybe other
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> people too
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if some want to join the discussion
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For 1), I think your @mageia.org address once you will get one is
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sufficient. It's only one means of communication among others (MLs,
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> forums, wiki), so I don't think a group is necessarily needed for
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can still forward requests you can't handle yourself.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That being said, I have nothing against the use of a group for that,
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but only
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> as a contact e-mail, not for discussion, or only for sensitive
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> discussion
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> about specific persons.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That was exactly the purpose -- one contact point !
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (Which we can put in various documentation, etc.)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That way if I'm not available -- on holidays, sick or whatever, I could
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> alert the others to ensure a fast response. And they could always
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> help out
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if they wanted.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And if someone takes my place, it would be a transparent changeover.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A public mailing list could be used as contact point. And would allow
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other people to join the team.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I've been reflecting on that, and I agree.
</I>&gt;<i> - I was mostly worried about interest in packaging being lost in the
</I>&gt;<i> noise of heavy traffic lists like mageia-dev.
</I>&gt;<i> - Any confidential/private communication could be handled by direct
</I>&gt;<i> mail, as now.
</I>&gt;<i> - A mailing list would be simpler to administer.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> If it were used for the actual mentoring process as well, that wouldn't
</I>&gt;<i> be a problem - it's related, and requests to be mentored wouldn't be
</I>&gt;<i> easily lost.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> We had the name <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">packager-mentoring at ...</A> in mind.
</I>&gt;<i> So could we have <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">packager-mentoring at ml.mageia.org</A> ?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Thanks :)
</I>
The ML could also be good as direct input for people who like to 
contribute as packager.

As you said in your mail before, the mageia-dev or mageia-discuss ML's 
are very polulated, so the chances of overreading a mail of someone new 
could happen very easy.

Having a dedicated ML just for that as entry point for new guys, we can 
abandon that problem and we won't miss someone.
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