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<H1>[Mageia-dev] boot-nonfree.iso ?</H1>
<B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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<I>Fri Dec 30 13:27:39 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>2011/12/30 Thomas Backlund <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>>:
><i> 30.12.2011 02:25, David Walser skrev:
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Thomas Backlund wrote:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> 29.12.2011 22:39, David Walser skrev:
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> David Walser wrote:
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> Thomas Backlund wrote:
</I>>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>>><i> Now this does not fix the radeon-firmware issue, as this is only to
</I>>>>>>><i> get installer running on all hw. (I probably will remove
</I>>>>>>><i> radeon-firmware
</I>>>>>>><i> again as it's not needed/used by the installer)
</I>>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>>><i> For the radeon-firmware (and other nonfree firmware) issue, we still
</I>>>>>>><i> need to fix stage2 installer.
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> Do you have a reference for this issue?
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Is it <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1471">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1471</A> or something else?
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Yes, it's exactly that.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> the free DVD does not contain anything from nonfree, so radeon fails to
</I>>>><i> load until the firmware gets installed.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> So we are trying to solve this issue cleanly.
</I>>>><i> One thing I'm working on is a separate firmware iso to burn (or put
</I>>>><i> contents on usb stick) to satisfy this need.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> The other option for radeon users is to install using livecds.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> I want to make sure I understand you correctly, as I'm planning to upgrade
</I>>><i> a MDV 2010.2 machine with a Radeon HD 4650 to Mageia 1 tomorrow.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> The referenced bug makes it sound like the installer works fine, but since
</I>>><i> it doesn't have access to the nonfree firmware, the initrds it
</I>>><i> generates in the bootloader installation part doesn't contain them, so
</I>>><i> booting the installed system is problematic if you don't do
</I>>><i> radeon.modeset=0.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> This is correct.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> The other option on Mageia 1 is to do a online upgrade, and it will pull the
</I>><i> needed firmwares from nonfree during install.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Listening to you in this thread I'm getting worried DrakX itself may not
</I>>><i> work without access to the firmware.  Did I misread you?
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> DrakX/installer will work as it does not rely on hw specific drivers, as it
</I>><i> runs in framebuffer mode.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> The point of fixing stage2 is that when installer detects hw that needs
</I>><i> firmware from nonfree, it should notify the user and ask if he/she wants
</I>><i> to install it, either from an additional media or from online repos.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> The problem with upcoming radeon hw, is that it wont work with
</I>><i> radeon.modeset=0 as the only supported mode is KMS.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I'm also looking into have the radeon driver refuse to load if it does
</I>><i> not find its firmware, and maybe instead load vesa. But no ETA on that part.
</I>
And yet another important issue is wifi firmware to enable
notebook/netbook owners to install from dvd + extra cd/stick.
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wobo
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