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    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 17/12/11 20:24 did gyre and gimble:
&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 17/12/11 10:58 did gyre and gimble:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> About the question how hard it is to press another key: not hard. But
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the Ctrl-Alt-F1 has been a standard in ALL distributions and ALL
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> documentations.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Back in the day, text logins were the norm, graphical logins came later.
</I>&gt;<i> Text logins got ttys 1-7... These days they are pretty much useless for
</I>&gt;<i> 99.5% of the use cases and we have to move with the times. There is no
</I>&gt;<i> point keeping this static for the sake of &quot;that's how it's been done
</I>&gt;<i> before&quot;. This is the kind of mentality that block progress.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> If we don't want progress and if we don't want to shake of some of the
</I>&gt;<i> hangovers from the old Unix days, we wouldn't have udev, we wouldn't
</I>&gt;<i> have systemd and we wouldn't have numerous other bits.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> The same arguments can easily be applied to other areas (people expect
</I>&gt;<i> system service scripts to be in /etc/init.d/ etc.). We need to let it go.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> As graphical logins are the norm, we should be be catering to them
</I>&gt;<i> first, and leave text logins for special cases.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> That's my take on it.
</I>
Oh and I forgot to say Fedora have been doing this for a long time and
other distros have also been experimenting with it too, so this is very
much not something we're going out on a limb to do, but we are trying to
push things forward a bit.

Col


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