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<B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
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<I>Wed Dec 14 11:17:54 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>Le 14/12/2011 10:14, Dan Fandrich a écrit :
><i> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:49:15AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
</I>>><i> This is unsupported. Maybe you should instead contribute documentation that
</I>>><i> makes this more explicitly obvious, but it is a well-known rule in Mandriva and
</I>>><i> Mageia (and usually applies to other distros as well).
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</I>><i> I can understand that my particular case is unsupported, but I described
</I>><i> a different, supported, scenario that would also fail due to this problem.
</I>><i> To reiterate, a distribution upgrade from 1 to 2 (once it's finalized)
</I>><i> could involve urpmi first upgrading the perl-dependent package but avoid
</I>><i> installing the new perl itself until the end of the upgrade, which could be
</I>><i> hours or (if interrupted) days later. During the entirety of that time,
</I>><i> that package would be unusable. If that package happened to be a key CGI
</I>><i> script for a web site, the entire site would be down for that entire time.
</I>Heaven, a critical component not available during an upgrade :)
OK, let's supose all dependencies have been correctly versioned. Would
it be sufficient to offer any garanty of correct working order ? I don't
think so, you'd just have gained a bit more safety during the
transition. But given we can't already ensure correct working order
during nominal sitution, I don't think that's really a priority to
invest efforts toward transitional situations.
Of course, this doesn't prevent you from targeting those issues, if you
feel concerned. But you'd better ask for a contributer account to do the
final piece of work (fixing the packages) directly, if your only
argument to convince packagers is edge case as 'working order during
upgrade'.
--
BOFH excuse #95:
Pentium FDIV bug
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