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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later</H1>
    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 10/12/11 11:14 did gyre and gimble:
&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 d&#233;cembre 2011 11:14:38, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le jeudi 08 d&#233;cembre 2011 &#224; 18:51 +0800, Funda Wang a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I would suggest that registering nobody as a mailing list, so that
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> every interested packagers could join to help.
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</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No.
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</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For the reasons already highlighted several time, this would not work.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's the situation at mandriva, and we know well the problem it cause
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( aka, obscure communication, no one really in charge of a rpm, so not
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one feeling responsible for bugs or anything ).
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Either a package is maintained and should be marked as such, or it is
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not, and should be marked as such, with a unfortunate fate for him
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sooner or later.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The goal is not to align lots of unmaintained packages, but to have a
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maintained distribution. People have been complaining for quality since
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a lot of time, and that's the only way to have it.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If not, this end like Mandriva, people see and fill bugs, they are not
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fixed, and no one care. This greatly undermine the confidence in the
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distribution in the long run, and so while having maintainer is not a
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> magic solution, this is a important step in the right direction.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A free-for-all pool is just a mess.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> You're explaining why having orphan packages is bad and it's hard to disagree, 
</I>&gt;<i> but I fail to see why such a mailing list for people who are ready to devote 
</I>&gt;<i> some time to orphan packages would make things worse. It's not because it's 
</I>&gt;<i> not the ideal solution that it's bad, is it?
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I understand Misc's point, but when there cannot be a perfect solution
that works, then a least bad one will do.

While it's been said lots of times by Misc that it's a bad situation,
until someone comes up with a better practical approach I don't think a
mailing list will may anything worse and may help when people are idling
and looking for tasks. So I'm in favour of such a mailing list.

Col


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