1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
|
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE> [Mageia-dev] MariaDB 5.5.18 on cauldron tonight
</TITLE>
<LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
<LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20MariaDB%205.5.18%20on%20cauldron%20tonight&In-Reply-To=%3C4EDFFD8C.2020209%40mageia.org%3E">
<META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
<META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<LINK REL="Previous" HREF="010261.html">
<LINK REL="Next" HREF="010271.html">
</HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
<H1>[Mageia-dev] MariaDB 5.5.18 on cauldron tonight</H1>
<B>Thomas Backlund</B>
<A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20MariaDB%205.5.18%20on%20cauldron%20tonight&In-Reply-To=%3C4EDFFD8C.2020209%40mageia.org%3E"
TITLE="[Mageia-dev] MariaDB 5.5.18 on cauldron tonight">tmb at mageia.org
</A><BR>
<I>Thu Dec 8 00:58:04 CET 2011</I>
<P><UL>
<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="010261.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB 5.5.18 on cauldron tonight
</A></li>
<LI>Next message: <A HREF="010271.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB 5.5.18 on cauldron tonight
</A></li>
<LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
<a href="date.html#10266">[ date ]</a>
<a href="thread.html#10266">[ thread ]</a>
<a href="subject.html#10266">[ subject ]</a>
<a href="author.html#10266">[ author ]</a>
</LI>
</UL>
<HR>
<!--beginarticle-->
<PRE>Maarten Vanraes skrev 7.12.2011 22:31:
><i> Op woensdag 07 december 2011 20:38:16 schreef Thomas Backlund:
</I>>><i> After Alpha2 I guess we need to discuss this on a council meeting to
</I>>><i> get a decision for Mageia 2.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> fine, i don't see the need of why to have a council meeting wrt this though...
</I>><i>
</I>
Sorry for being unclear, I was just pointing out that if we cant agree
on the ml, council has the power to decide.
><i> lemme know when there _IS_ a good moment to submit
</I>><i>
</I>
Fact is... I'm very much interested in mariadb, and given Oracles track
record, I suspect soon mariadb will be the only real choice.
And since I know who upstream is, I have no problem switching...
The thing I reacted against is the bad timing and even worse test planning.
You suggested to push mariadb in the middle of a big kde upgrade, wich
pretty much means half part would have been built against mysql and the
rest against mariadb... (yes I know it should work tecnically, but...)
And then you suggested that if it does not seem to work we pull it back
out 2 days later -> meaning no real time to test, and messing it up
even more... thats not how you do proper testing/qa...
There must be a _way_ better longterm plan to get people to really
think about it...
So here is what I suggest:
After Alpha2 ISOs are relased to the mirrors:
1. announce the upcoming push on -dev ml to remind people
2. push mariadb to core/release obsoleting/replacing _all_ of
mysql.
3. rebuild _everything_ that normlly builds against mysql to make
sure it builds correctly against mariadb and still works after
Now for thq QA / testing part:
1. we use mariadb in Alpha3 (planned 2012 Jan. 12) and keep
fixing any bugs that might show up.
2. around ~10 days before Beta1 (planned 2012 Feb. 21) we evalute
the situation... if it still seems to work, keep using mariadb
for Beta1
3. final call: 1-3 days before version freeze (planned 2012 Mar. 7)
This it the point of no return... Here we decide if we go mariadb
or mysql for Mageia 2. Whatever we decide at this point is not up
for discussion anymore after this, as version freeze will be
enforced (with small reservation for KDE/Gnome release schedules)
This way we have Beta2 (planned 2012 Mar. 15) and RC (planned
2012 Apr. 10) to flush out any problems we might get by reverting
to mysql.
And to be more specific about all needed testing for mariadb:
- testing all apps built against mariadb
- testing by creating all kinds of databases in mysql, and see
if mariadb is capable of upgrading/supporting them
- testing if sql clients still work when accessing (remote)
mysql servers.
- for those that feel brave, try to put it into live setups
How does this plan sound ?
--
Thomas
</PRE>
<!--endarticle-->
<HR>
<P><UL>
<!--threads-->
<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="010261.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB 5.5.18 on cauldron tonight
</A></li>
<LI>Next message: <A HREF="010271.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB 5.5.18 on cauldron tonight
</A></li>
<LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
<a href="date.html#10266">[ date ]</a>
<a href="thread.html#10266">[ thread ]</a>
<a href="subject.html#10266">[ subject ]</a>
<a href="author.html#10266">[ author ]</a>
</LI>
</UL>
<hr>
<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
mailing list</a><br>
</body></html>
|
