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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] cauldron core/release udev-173-1.mga2</H1>
    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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    <I>Thu Aug 25 21:29:06 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Le jeudi 25 ao&#251;t 2011 &#224; 15:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and D.Morgan at 25/08/11 15:22 did gyre and gimble:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Mageia Team at 25/08/11 09:56 did gyre and gimble:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Name        : udev                         Relocations: (not relocatable)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Version     : 173                               Vendor: Mageia.Org
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Release     : 1.mga2                        Build Date: Thu Aug 25 10:54:41 2011
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host: jonund
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Group       : System/Configuration/Hardware   Source RPM: (none)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Size        : 745928                           License: GPLv2
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Signature   : (none)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Packager    : Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; URL         : <A HREF="ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug">ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug</A>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Summary     : A userspace implementation of devfs
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Description :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Udev is an implementation of devfs/devfsd in userspace using sysfs and
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; /sbin/hotplug. It requires a 2.6 kernel to run properly.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Like devfs, udev dynamically creates and removes device nodes from /dev/.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; It responds to /sbin/hotplug device events.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; misc &lt;misc&gt; 173-1.mga2:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; + Revision: 135235
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - fix description ( rpmlint error )
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;   + tv &lt;tv&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;     - fix file list
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;     - new release
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;     - rediff patch 0
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So, with the new udev, it seems that udev-acl is removed. This is a step
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; towards systemd which now handles all the ACL application.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Do we really want this new udev now? If so, then we really need to step
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; up the systemd integration. Things are mostly working fine for me
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; without udev-acls, but even with the systemd package as presently
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; available, I have to edit my /etc/pamd.d/system-auth file to include the
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; pam_systemd stuff - see my earlier message to this list about that.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what about doing like fedora ?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; %post
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; # Make sure pam_systemd is enabled
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if ! /bin/grep -q pam_systemd /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac ; then
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;         /usr/sbin/authconfig --update --nostart &gt;/dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 || :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;         # Try harder
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;         /bin/grep -q pam_systemd /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac ||
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /usr/sbin/authconfig --updateall --nostart &gt;/dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 || :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; fi
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I think it may be easier to write a script around augeas than import
authconfig, as I suspect that it would do much more change.


&gt;<i> Yup that's what I asked in my last email about this several weeks ago.
</I>&gt;<i> I've pinged it up to get more discussion about the topic.
</I>
In fact, it was not clear that you asked a question in the mail :/

We said that we would support booting without systemd-, so to me, this
should be taken in account.

-- 
Michael Scherer

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