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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.</H1>
<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<I>Tue Aug 23 15:45:31 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 23/08/11 14:34 did gyre and gimble:
><i> On 23 August 2011 10:55, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote:
</I>>>><i> err... drakx-net's code is heavily used by other tools such as:
</I>>>><i> - drakx-installer
</I>>>><i> - mgaonline
</I>>>><i> - ...
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</I>>>><i> So I think we still want to keep drakx-net
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Perhaps, but then a more interesting question is "what bits of drakx-net
</I>>><i> are used in mgaonline and drax-installer?" Just stating that they are
</I>>><i> used there as a reason to keep it isn't really a good argument IMO.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> drakx-installer uses most of interesting bits of drakx-net (ake network
</I>><i> detection & set up, ...)
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> Asbestos is used in fire retardant wall insulation, but it's not a good
</I>>><i> argument to keep it considering the world has moved on and we now know
</I>>><i> the dangers of working with that material.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> OK, give me the NM patches for the installer :-)
</I>
If I get time, I think it would be worth looking at. Obviously (just
like in one of my replies) I'm far better at *talking* than *doing* too :D
><i> Seriously, without trolling, we just cannot drop drakx-net until we got
</I>><i> something else for the installer.
</I>><i> Dunno what does anaconda these days btw?
</I>
Not sure. I'll have to take a look at that, but it would be interesting
to see if it's more integrated into NM now.
>><i> So what does mgaonline need to work with drakx-net? Does it just need to
</I>>><i> know if you are online or not? If so why not use NM's dbus service to do
</I>>><i> that? It could eventually know whether you are on a paid/metered
</I>>><i> connection (this is not yet supported by NM but there has been some talk
</I>>><i> about it) or a "free" connection - a fast vs. slow connection etc. It
</I>>><i> could make intelligent, informed decisions, not just "is the user online
</I>>><i> - no matter how crappily?"
</I>><i>
</I>><i> mgaonline has less needs, basically detecting network connectivity
</I>><i> but those are shared with the installer, so even if the lower level
</I>><i> part would change, there's no readon not to have a common perl
</I>><i> layer hiding the low level bits instead of making both interfaces NM
</I>
Agreed. Perhaps my terminology is incorrect here. I'm not against such
an abstraction layer and even maintaining a if (nm) { new() } else {
old(); } approach for a release or two depending on need.
Col
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