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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Re : Re: new samba-squid subpackage proporsal</H1>
<B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B>
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<I>Fri Aug 5 21:19:06 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Why condicional suggest?
All what i'm asking is ti do that subpackage and then i place
Suggests: samba-squid-helper
At squid's spec
I don't get your point.
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De : Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>>
À : <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
Envoyé : ven., 05 août 2011, 17:48:34 UTC+00:00
Objet : Re: [Mageia-dev] new samba-squid subpackage proporsal
Op vrijdag 05 augustus 2011 19:05:43 schreef Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
><i> Le Vendredi 05 Août 2011 18:17:15 Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
</I>><i> > Op woensdag 03 augustus 2011 14:01:16 schreef Buchan Milne:
</I>><i> > > On Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:23:24 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
</I>><i> > > > Op dinsdag 02 augustus 2011 17:04:41 schreef Buchan Milne:
</I>><i> > > > > Samba-common is the right package for this. I see no need to
</I>><i> > > > > have a
</I>><i> > > > > squid- specific subpackage (and then samba-apache,
</I>><i> > > > > samba-freeradius,
</I>><i> > > > > with the same content, or all virtual packages just pulling
</I>><i> > > > > samba-common).
</I>><i> > > > >
</I>><i> > > > > Feel free to mess up your squid package by adding suggests on
</I>><i> > > > > samba-common, but since installing the right package is
</I>><i> > > > > trivially
</I>><i> > > > > solved by the admin and is a small portion of the work required,
</I>><i> > > > > I
</I>><i> > > > > would personally prefer not to increase the default footprint of
</I>><i> > > > > any
</I>><i> > > > > installation that pulls in squid.
</I>><i> > > >
</I>><i> > > > this is really imho an example where conditional suggests could work
</I>><i> > > > well: if you have squid already installed and you're installing
</I>><i> > > > samba,
</I>><i> > > > this subpackage could then be suggested. (and vice versa).
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > But, it is irrelevant. samba-common is required by both samba-client
</I>><i> > > and samba-server, so you can't install samba without getting
</I>><i> > > ntlm_auth.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > there is definately a misunderstanding here, conditional suggests are not
</I>><i> > usefull for requires, only for suggests
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > > This is really about whether squid should pull in any pieces of samba
</I>><i> > > by default, and could be solved by adding:
</I>><i> > > Suggests: samba-common
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > to squid. But, I don't see much value, as this is a small part of the
</I>><i> > > work required to get a single-sign on authentication solution for squid
</I>><i> > > against AD. The default squid.conf already has example configs showing
</I>><i> > > that ntlm_auth is required, and all we are saving the user is a 'urpmf
</I>><i> > > ntlm_auth' and a 'urpmi samba-common'. However, there are many
</I>><i> > > scenarios squid can be deployed (e.g. SSO with GSSAPI, basic auth with
</I>><i> > > LDAP, PAM, NIS etc., no authentication, peer cache only etc.), and I
</I>><i> > > don't see a reason to pull in samba-common by default, when it saves
</I>><i> > > the admin very little effort.
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > Regards,
</I>><i> > > Buchan
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > well if it was in a separate package (and not in samba-common), it would
</I>><i> > be interesting to have conditional suggests. because then samba would
</I>><i> > pull it in; and squid too, without needing samba if you don't have it.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > but, maybe i'm misunderstanding this thread
</I>><i>
</I>><i> That's what i was asking
</I>><i> to create a new subpckage samba-helper-squid to stor ntlm_auth since
</I>><i> ntlm_auth is not linked with other lib it can stand by itself in a
</I>><i> independend subpackage to make a suggest from squid. But it seems Buchan
</I>><i> refuses.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> LD
</I>
well, it's possible, but since there is no conditional suggests yet, i agree
with Buchan. if there was conditional suggests, that would be better...
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