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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks</H1>
    <B>SaschaS</B> 
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<PRE>Hi

2010/12/18 yvan munoz &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mr.yvan.munoz at gmail.com</A>&gt;

&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Hello, just few words to mention the obvious :
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> 1. musicians are sub-group
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>yes, but there are more and more musicians that want to use linux. Mainly
IMHO cause ther was a wave of sound apps development started end 2009 /
beginning 2010 that really makes linux more and more attractive to
musicians, naming Qtractor, ladish and even some new native linux VSTs ..
and new LV2 plugs.


&gt;<i> 2. RT-kernel need is a sub-sub-group of (electronic and music) needs
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>yes, since kernel 2.6.33 the RT-Patch even made my system less stable that
the normal kernel


&gt;<i> 3. Jack works well on normal-kernel now, providing 90% of sound-studio
</I>&gt;<i> usages (really needs of -RT are rares, irl)
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>Well ... the normal kernel is o.k. exept, that it still has the &quot;Tickles
System&quot; activated. Deaktivating this really boosts the kernel for sound ..
at least in my and other cases I know it did.



&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> and last thing : kernel-RT is not suffisant. user must configure most
</I>&gt;<i> things on system (limits.d, sysctl, acpi, tmpfs or ramfs, fstab, and more to
</I>&gt;<i> have a &quot;real pro-audio station like any others o.s&quot;), so providing kernel-rt
</I>&gt;<i> is good to seems give &quot;out-of-the-box&quot; possibility, but it lies : user in
</I>&gt;<i> all cases must configure what is bad to auto-conf through spec file
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Therefore I like the idea of the wizard.
</I>

&gt;<i> So maybe it's a false good idea to provide kernel-rt.
</I>&gt;<i> Another stone to wall &quot;dont want to have many kernel in repo&quot;
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> ps : the real trouble about sound-studio seems to be &quot;how to provide
</I>&gt;<i> non-free support&quot; ? (eg : compil most softwares with mp3 support, and vst
</I>&gt;<i> support) It is possible to provide this supports but without distribute the
</I>&gt;<i> lib of ? example : compil qtractor with mp3 + vst support, but wihtout
</I>&gt;<i> provide lib for mp3 and vst : software could but user need to install
</I>&gt;<i> himself mp3 and vst ?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Good point, but I have no answer to this at this point.
</I>

&gt;<i> end of off-topic
</I>&gt;<i> nice night
</I>&gt;<i> maybe soon
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> regards, saschas
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