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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout</H1>
<B>Buchan Milne</B>
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<I>Fri Dec 10 14:36:07 CET 2010</I>
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<PRE>On Friday, 10 December 2010 11:22:09 andre999 wrote:
><i> Using PLF for mirroring constrained packages sounds like a very good
</I>><i> idea. Their site says that they are open to hosting such packages for
</I>><i> all distros, as long as there are volonteers to support the packages.
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Have you looked at the names of people involved with PLF? Have you seen the
same names posting on this list?
><i> And since Mageia is (at least initially) compatible with Mandriva, their
</I>><i> page "easyurpmi" could be easily modified to set up mirror sources for
</I>><i> Mageia users. (Call our version "easymageia" ?)
</I>
easyurpmi should not be necessary. Users should not be expected to paste
random commands from random sites into a root shell.
><i> Using PLF for contrained packages offers a plus for mirror sites willing
</I>><i> to host such packages.
</I>><i> They need only mirror one PLF tree for all distros - be it Mandriva,
</I>><i> Unity, or Mageia.
</I>
Alternatively, the whole dichotomy that necessitated contributors to create a
separate project should be addressed differently, but keeping the packages
integrated into the distribution, but avoiding legal issues by making it easy
for entities hosting the files to avoid infringement.
><i> Interestingly, in a search for all packages containing "codec" or "mp"
</I>><i> (for mpeg) in the name, I found only 2 packages in PLF that weren't
</I>><i> already in Mandriva : one being quotations from the Simpsons, which the
</I>><i> package said was there for copyright reasons.
</I>><i> All the other PLF packages I found in the above searches were in
</I>><i> Mandriva main.
</I>
Duh. They are the same package, just built with different options.
><i> Many if not all of which were in PLF for patent reasons, according to
</I>><i> the package description.
</I>><i> Which brings up a difference of PLF packages : the PLF description
</I>><i> usually ends with a line specifying why they are there. (At least
</I>><i> packages destined for Mandriva users.)
</I>
Search for plf in e.g. <A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-">http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-</A>
bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/ffmpeg/current/SPECS/ffmpeg.spec?revision=612098&view=markup
><i> So if a user wants to avoid patent constrained packages, they are
</I>><i> identified as such in PLF - but not in Mandriva.
</I>
Intentionally. I don't think Mandriva would have liked a note saying "If you
want the patent-encumbered features in this package, visit
<A HREF="http://plf.zarb.org">http://plf.zarb.org</A>", which could have been sufficiently complicit for DMCA
issues.
><i> > This is only a suggestion (and we may have already moved past this
</I>><i> > point), but perhaps this will let us be more flexible to the end users
</I>><i> > (both DeskTop and Server).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> For that point, end users could also use the install routines on the
</I>><i> distribution media, or the (rpm) package categories, to selectively
</I>><i> install Desktop and/or server packages. Both of which could use
</I>><i> improvement.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But the suggestion regarding PLF is interesting ...
</I>
No, we were looking for a more optimal solution than PLF ...
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