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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two</H1>
    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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    <I>Sun Nov 28 22:10:34 CET 2010</I>
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<PRE>Renaud MICHEL skrev 28.11.2010 22:54:
&gt;<i> On dimanche 28 novembre 2010 at 21:12, Thomas Backlund wrote :
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So the mirror medias accordingly to all comments so far would be a
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> simple:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * core
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - enabled by default
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - mirrors must mirror this media to be listed as a mirror
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - only GPL stuff
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I guess you meant free (as defined by FSF, or we can make our own
</I>&gt;<i> definition, like debian), we surely don't want to restrict ourself to GPL-
</I>&gt;<i> only stuff.
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Yeah. I meant to change that.
I do mean free/libre as in FSF/OSI definition.

&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - must be selfcontained
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * nonfree
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - disabled by default, installer will ask to enable it if
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>       it detects hw that need driver/fw from here...
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - mirrors must mirror this media to be listed as a mirror
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - contains apps/drivers/firmware that are free to redistribute,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>       but we dont have GPL source for
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - for example ati/nvidia drivers/firmware, Oracle Java, ...
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * tainted
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - disabled by default
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - mirrors are free to not mirror this media
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - stuff we think we can redistribute, but that may have some
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>       patent issues or other restrictions in oter countries.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Merging &quot;codecs&quot; and &quot;firmware&quot; into &quot;tainted&quot; makes sense.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
actually most firmware we have would end up in core or nonfree

&gt;<i> So &quot;games&quot; and &quot;extra&quot; gets merged back into core (except for non-free games
</I>&gt;<i> of course), won't this make an enormous repos?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
People seemed to dislike the games splitout, so I &quot;merged&quot; it again

&gt;<i> I think it was better to have a separated games repos, as it will quickly
</I>&gt;<i> get big, and is likely to have frequent backports (as gamers generally want
</I>&gt;<i> to have the latest release).
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
Well, if we want to split out games, it needs atleast:
* games
* games_nonfree

&gt;<i> Would it be possible to have a separate games sub-project, that won't freeze
</I>&gt;<i> to make releases with the rest of mageia?
</I>&gt;<i> Instead it would be an always updating repos which is compiled with the
</I>&gt;<i> latest stable release (or even the previous, if it is possible to have
</I>&gt;<i> packages that install correctly on both).
</I>&gt;<i> The project would only have a &quot;testing&quot; and &quot;release&quot; (or another name to
</I>&gt;<i> avoid confusion with other &quot;release&quot; repos which are frozen), this way you
</I>&gt;<i> could quickly have new versions of all the games, if they don't need
</I>&gt;<i> bleeding-edge libraries (I think they rarely does).
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
Interesting idea, but problem is that if the games are built against 
some newer system libs, they'll stop working on older releases...

--
Thomas
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