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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two</H1>
    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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<PRE>Op zaterdag 27 november 2010 00:25:17 schreef Thomas Backlund:
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&gt;<i> &gt; A) i see no reason for codecs and firmware to be separate. However, i do
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; understand that some people would not want to install firmware, but i
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; think we should do this in another way, (like installing a meta package
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that enforces some limits.)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; codecs seem odd to be separate, if they have patented problems they
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; should go in non_free, if no problem, they can go in core.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> That is doable.
</I>&gt;<i> The reason for having it separate was because its the most &quot;problematic&quot;
</I>&gt;<i> one. (codecs have more issues than firmware)
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What i meant here, is why is firmware separate from core? why is codecs 
separate from core?

imo, i would put firmware and codecs in either core or non_free.

&gt;<i> &gt; B) if they are separate, they would need updates, backports, testing, ...
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (i expect non_free does too?)
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Yep.
</I>&gt;<i> as noted in the other post, the layout under /core/ is duplicated under
</I>&gt;<i> all other medias...
</I>
yeah, I only read your other post after writing this.

&gt;<i> &gt; C) if they are separate, they cannot be disabled by default, some stuff
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is needed for stuff to work.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> So installer could ask &quot;in order to fully support your hw you need ...,
</I>&gt;<i> do you want to enable firmware repo...&quot; and explain the reason for
</I>&gt;<i> free/libre...
</I>
that sounds like a good idea, however; do we have the time to change this in 
the installer?

&gt;<i> &gt; D) i have questions about noarch packages, will they be installed on both
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; trees? and if we have more archs later on, more and more? this seems a
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; waste; except if we could hardlink them somehow. if not, we should just
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; put them somewhere separate.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> We hardlink them already.
</I>&gt;<i> But yeah, I'd like a separate noarch too, but some people disagree, so I
</I>&gt;<i> didnt add it to this proposal.
</I>
well, especially when we get more archs, we really should separate noarchs; 
i'm kind of feeling strong about this.

&gt;<i> &gt; E) i understand games to be separate, but disabled by default?, i'm not
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sure i agree with that. (we need to remember our target audience; stuff
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; needs to work out-of the box)
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I was thinking of a feature in the installer, if you select games, it
</I>&gt;<i> would enable the repo by default, otherwise keep it disabled.
</I>
same as with C) . do we have the time for this?

&gt;<i> &gt; F) what is backports_testing? why can't that just be testing?
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Versioning problem... on mirrors / BS
</I>&gt;<i> we have testing -&gt; updates route,
</I>&gt;<i> so this would be backports_testing -&gt; backports,
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Because if you have this:
</I>&gt;<i> core/release v 1.2.0-1
</I>&gt;<i> core/testing v 1.3.0-1 (intended for backports)
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> then you cant upload a bugfix v 1.2.0-1.1 to core/testing as there is
</I>&gt;<i> already a bigger version in testing...
</I>
aah, makes sense.

PS: i like the extra btw: (which should contain all unmaintained packages that 
actually build)
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