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    <B>andr&#233;</B> 
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<PRE>Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> Le jeudi 07 octobre 2010 &#224; 11:14 -0400, Greg Harris a &#233;crit :
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</I>&gt;<i>    
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I certainly agree, and mean no disrespect to you and other maintainers
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> who generously contribute their time and energy. But the Mandriva
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> implementation of backports is not a solution for those who want a
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> continuously updated distro. It works for me and I appreciate that it's
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there. But if you are going to design a new and appealing alternative,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the effort required to make backports really known and useful needs to
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be taken into account.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
</I>&gt;<i> Well, that's a long running task. First, we have added meta data to
</I>&gt;<i> repository so we could design a better interface for the software ( ie,
</I>&gt;<i> how to detect that a packages is a backport and how to see a software is
</I>&gt;<i> a update, a test update, or something else ), then we need to implement
</I>&gt;<i> the soft, etc.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> You spoke of having backport by default. We used to do it, but too much
</I>&gt;<i> people faced issue and complained. So we 1) said the truth, aka backport
</I>&gt;<i> didn't have the same rigorous testing 2) disabled it by default.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Now, if things change ( ie, if we have a process with more QA ), we can
</I>&gt;<i> change again.
</I>&gt;<i>    
</I>Backports are definitely an area needing improvement.  Firstly, it is a 
bit awkward - especially with the waiting for Rpmdrake to process - to 
temporarily access backports.
And when I have, most of the time what I was interested in was not as up 
to date as the developper's site, if there was a backport for the 
application (or type of application) in question.
Luckily, being a programmer, it is not problematic for me to compile and 
create menu entries, etc, if necessary.  But that doesn't help ordinary 
users of (now) Mageia.
So I intend to become more involved with backports - and trying to 
improve Rpmdrake and other tools.
(If only Perl were a little easier/ more like other languages, I would 
have already done more.)
So Mageia is pushing me to contribute more actively - hopefully others 
as well.

- Andr&#233; (andre999)

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