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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Various proposals around backports and other media	management</H1>
    <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> 
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Le mercredi 6 octobre 2010 00:06:41, Buchan Milne a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> On Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:46:45 Samuel Verschelde wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - a section on the mageia website dedicated to package updates : what's new
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in security/bugfix updates, what's new in backports (aka version updates),
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ... with screen captures, description of what changed in this version,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; links to upstream websites, comments from users, focus on some
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; applications... 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Please take into consideration features that might be beneficial to package 
</I>&gt;<i> maintainers as well. If you haven't yet, please look at e.g. Youri project, 
</I>&gt;<i> Sophie etc.
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The one I'm talking about would be primarily geared towards end-users. However, why not indeed share efforts between packager's needs and user's needs. Some are common, others aren't. With a clever architecture, this is attainable. What about a unique back-end, but 2 different frontends ?

&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> RSS feed or use of twitter by build system may be useful ....
</I>
Indeed. I thought about them but forgot to write them down.

&gt;<i> &gt; - (the biggest part, but the one with most long term benefits I hope) add
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; metadata to media to make urpmi more media-aware. Today, rpmdrake detects
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; backports because the backports media have &quot;backports&quot; in their name.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's a (useful) hack, but we could do better. One solution could be to
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; give metadata to each media : * release vs updates vs backports
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  * testing vs stable
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  * debug vs non-debug
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Combination of these &quot;tags&quot; would give the following media :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     * main release (just like today's media)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     * main updates
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     * main updates testing : for update candidates, this is our current
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;main testing&quot; media * main backports
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     * main backports testing : for backports candidates (as someone who
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; frequently does backports, I sometimes feel the lack for it) 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> As long as it doesn't take the focus off the development release. In Mandriva, 
</I>&gt;<i> I think there were some uploads to backports before the upload to cooker, 
</I>&gt;<i> which can cause problems for users if not corrected.
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Indeed. I think that the current policy already tries to enforce that. Those uploads to backports before upload to cooker were mistakes.
I don't think that this media structure would change many things in the way that we packagers work, however. Benefits should be mainly for users.

Samuel

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