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    <B>Olivier M&#233;jean</B> 
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<PRE>Le mardi 5 octobre 2010 15:47:20, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> On 5 October 2010 15:28, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Personally I think the way Mandriva maintains both updates and backports
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for each release is a waste of resources.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> How is it a waste?
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> A practical example is the college professor / school teacher (see
</I>&gt;<i> Fernando Parra post a few emails back); he doesn't want to upgrade the
</I>&gt;<i> boxes in the lab, he doesn't care if they have the newest/shiniest
</I>&gt;<i> versions, just that the distro is stable and works(tm). The same
</I>&gt;<i> applies for a company, servers... etc. We aren't talking only about
</I>&gt;<i> personal boxes that can break without too much drastic consequences.
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No need to update. What on earth is that feeling that a rolling distro forces 
users to update ? 

&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I do agree that Mageia should be a semi-rolling distro.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; By &quot;semi rolling distro&quot; I mean the following:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Release a distro every 8-12 months (the exact cyle is not the point I'm
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; debating here, it could be 6 months too, it doesn't mater for the concept
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm trying to explain).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Provide updates/security patches for all the basic stuff that has a lot
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of dependencies (kernel, core libs, kde, gnome, xorg, etc.).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Provide newer release rather than backported security patches for all
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; other apps.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In other words, backports (rather than backported security fixes) should
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be the rule for everything apart from the core system stuff that has
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; loads of dependencies.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This would reduce the space requirements on the mirrors and it would mean
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that Mageia is a &quot;rolling distro&quot; for most apps, making it more
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; attractive compared to ubuntu/Fedora/opensuse and at the same time reduce
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the workload for packagers.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Again a rolling distro is something that's not clearly defined. And to
</I>&gt;<i> be honest, a rolling distro isn't suitable for new or inexperienced
</I>&gt;<i> users. Simply because you can't guarantee that a new package won't
</I>&gt;<i> introduce regressions (or totally break an app), in this case an
</I>&gt;<i> experienced user will know how to revert to an older version, a new or
</I>&gt;<i> inexperienced user won't.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Look at the rolling distros that've been mentioned, Debian or Gentoo,
</I>&gt;<i> right? would anyone recommend Debian or Gentoo for a
</I>&gt;<i> new/inexperienced/non-power user?
</I>
PCLinuxOS is a rolling distro and is to inexperienced users.

Olivier
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