1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
|
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers
</TITLE>
<LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
<LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin9_M8v0_8DSx4Y-HLLL3i4xbvQccqbR6%3DLP%3D39%40mail.gmail.com%3E">
<META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
<META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000803.html">
<LINK REL="Next" HREF="000806.html">
</HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
<H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1>
<B>Ahmad Samir</B>
<A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin9_M8v0_8DSx4Y-HLLL3i4xbvQccqbR6%3DLP%3D39%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com
</A><BR>
<I>Mon Oct 4 15:41:06 CEST 2010</I>
<P><UL>
<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?
</A></li>
<LI>Next message: <A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia?
</A></li>
<LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
<a href="date.html#804">[ date ]</a>
<a href="thread.html#804">[ thread ]</a>
<a href="subject.html#804">[ subject ]</a>
<a href="author.html#804">[ author ]</a>
</LI>
</UL>
<HR>
<!--beginarticle-->
<PRE>On 3 October 2010 20:19, Richard Walker <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>> wrote:
><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But are we always knowledgeable enough to be able to set up the system to
</I>><i> use our choice?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I confess to being a Mandriva Linux user for only 10 years but I have been
</I>><i> an Opera user (and purchaser) for a year or two before that. I ALWAYS have
</I>><i> difficulty when removing Firefox and replacing it with Opera as I can NEVER
</I>><i> find all of the nooks and crannies of the system and various software
</I>><i> packages which presume that Firefox must be available.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I would be much happier to discover that a distribution had taken my
</I>><i> choices seriously enough to check with me during the install and then make
</I>><i> sure that my choice is properly and fully integrated.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Then perhaps we could highlight applications which expect no other browser
</I>><i> than Firefox and proceed to educate their authors/packagers as to the
</I>><i> importance of user choices.
</I>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Majority of users do not want choice.
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> OK, that may be true, but when one of that majority decides to broaden the
</I>><i> horizons of their browsing experience then will they magically be learned
</I>><i> enough to be able to fix all of the integration issues for themselves? I
</I>><i> suspect not.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> An install time selector screen and supporting scripts would be a very good
</I>><i> starting point for a "Change Default Browser" wizard, much as XFDrake tries
</I>><i> to hide the complexities of switching video drivers.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Richard
</I>><i>
</I>
The point is, such scripts break all the time. e.g. chromium-browser
has a "make chrome the default browser" button, the problem is, it
works only under GNOME, but doesn't work under KDE4 or XFCE. It's
using a variant of the xdg-utils scripts...
xdg-utils is trying to do the huge job of working with all possible
desktop environments, this is, by its very nature, a hard thing to
accomplish.
Firefox also has a "make firefox the default web browser", again it
works only with GTK/GConf based applications, but it doesn't change
KDE settings.
If upstream can't accomplish this in their apps, how do you expect
downstream to do it?
--
Ahmad Samir
</PRE>
<!--endarticle-->
<HR>
<P><UL>
<!--threads-->
<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?
</A></li>
<LI>Next message: <A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia?
</A></li>
<LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
<a href="date.html#804">[ date ]</a>
<a href="thread.html#804">[ thread ]</a>
<a href="subject.html#804">[ subject ]</a>
<a href="author.html#804">[ author ]</a>
</LI>
</UL>
<hr>
<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
mailing list</a><br>
</body></html>
|
