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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1>
    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le vendredi 24 septembre 2010 &#224; 03:07 +0200, J.A. Magall&#243;n a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:58:30 +0200, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; How would you ensure that the community version will not be seen as a
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cheap version of the commercial one ? How would you prevent this idea
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; from destroying again the community like it did by the past ?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> ...
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; All people who I asked the question said that the only solution is to
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have 2 different names and brandings.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Redhat do it, and it work fine from them.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Novell do it, and it work fine.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Canonical do it ( to a lesser extend , since there was
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/375345">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/375345</A> ), and it work
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; fine.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Even debian based distro used a different name ( progeny, etc ).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We didn't for Mandriva, and so started the confusion between the
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; company, the distribution and the community. And so people didn't
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; contribute because it was a business, and the idea that &quot;updates were
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not free&quot; stick around for a long time because it was hard to explain to
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people the different concept
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So if there is a business or commercial version, I think this would
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; requires a different name and branding. Using the association name for
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that would not be right, in my opinion. 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I (and this is a totally personal opinion, of course, even if I sound harsh)
</I>&gt;<i> really hate all this mess of editions/versions/variants of the same distro.
</I>&gt;<i> I have always installed both servers and desktops with the same Mandriva
</I>&gt;<i> edition. In fact (perhaps I'm ignorant on this point), what's the difference
</I>&gt;<i> between lets say a 'server' edition and a 'desktop' edition ? The default
</I>&gt;<i> set of installed packages ?
</I>
Yes. From a purely technical point of view, that's the only change. In a
closed source world, you could add artificial restrictions ( as
Microsoft did for Windows or for old Windows NT server edition, who
cannot handle much memory, or not too much processor, etc ). 

&gt;<i> And what is the difference between the Commercial and the Free edition ?
</I>&gt;<i> The support from the company ?
</I>
Yes again.
Even if the Free edition could be supported as well by contract if
needed. But for cost reason, someone who offer support will prefer to do
it on a small subset of know packages in order to avoid surprise. But
there is company that offer support on almost all kind of system.

Usually, it is just a matter of paying enough. I used to have a job of
supporting debian as sysadmin, on any type of packages, for a client, so
that's not uncommon.
-- 
Michael Scherer

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