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<B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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<PRE>Am 09.11.2011 15:44, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
><i> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>>> wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny
</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>>>> wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>>
</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>>>> wrote:
</I>><i> > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team
</I>><i> members?
</I>><i> > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending.
</I>><i> I know it
</I>><i> may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important
</I>><i> to know
</I>><i> who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as
</I>><i> electing
</I>><i> the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious
</I>><i> issues if a
</I>><i> vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a
</I>><i> list of who
</I>><i> is a peer is important.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write
</I>><i> accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging
</I>><i> behind), so
</I>><i> that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a
</I>><i> user/group web app in the works), etc.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should
</I>><i> be those
</I>><i> > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
</I>><i> > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good
</I>><i> ideas or
</I>><i> > their opinions.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax
</I>><i> (for the
</I>><i> original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be
</I>><i> in such a
</I>><i> list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact
</I>><i> changelog of it,
</I>><i> we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more
</I>><i> fair,
</I>><i> > but that would be round about 20 members.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by
</I>><i> other
</I>><i> peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be
</I>><i> bootstrapped
</I>><i> by the leader.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> If you ask me that politely :)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On the quick, some proposals:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> tumbeliina
</I>><i> dimosthenis
</I>><i> alexn83
</I>><i> Oliver Faurax
</I>><i> rda
</I>><i> ennael
</I>><i> dmorgen
</I>><i> trish
</I>><i> Oliver Burger
</I>><i> Max
</I>><i> Donald Steward
</I>><i> Zlatko
</I>><i> dtsiamasiotis
</I>><i> mikala
</I>><i> dams
</I>><i> TeaAge
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Regards,
</I>><i> Thorsten
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Thank you :)
</I>><i> Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good
</I>><i> judge of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I
</I>><i> don't recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since
</I>><i> early June.
</I>><i> And those are:
</I>><i> Zlatko
</I>><i> dtsiamasiotis
</I>><i> dimosthenis
</I>
Zlatko is a designer who responded on the call for designer on the blog.
He told me he is reading the list. However he already did some work for
mageia. Have a look at bug #261
<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261</A>
dtsiamasiotis has attend to many meating. Also some you were attending
too
(<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html</A>).
He also was responsible for new icons for harddrake2.
Dimosthenis .... I'm not sure, to be honest. I put him to the list, but
dtsiamasiotis was meant. So we can discard him I guess.
><i>
</I>><i> Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in
</I>><i> the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we
</I>><i> put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything,
</I>><i> but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?
</I>><i> And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to
</I>><i> make contact with him since before Mga1...
</I>><i>
</I>
Well, who do want on the list? Everyone who played a part for the
artwork team and is on the list. As rda pointed, those have a vote for
representatives etc.
rda lead all meetings before I did and founded the artwork group. Oliver
did a lot for the wiki especially in question of design and is actively
part of a lot discussions around artwork.
AlexN83 could never be contact since mga1, as you said. But as we are
still using his work and he is always welcome to came back, I would put
him on the list.
Ennael ... a round the release of Mga1 she cared a lot of artwork and
made sure we had a nice KDE menu icon (that has not come from the
artwork team).
Thorsten
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