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   <H1>[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration</H1>
    <B>Max Quarterpleen</B> 
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<PRE>This has also been discussed in the forum:
<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=203">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=203</A>

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:

&gt;<i> Hey,
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> the discussion also take place last week in the mailing list, but I'd like
</I>&gt;<i> to
</I>&gt;<i> do that in an extra thread.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> To summarize the current situation:
</I>&gt;<i> The current window decoration (Ia Ora), looks old fashioned and is hard to
</I>&gt;<i> maintain. It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra to gtk3 (needed
</I>&gt;<i> for
</I>&gt;<i> Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and there are the
</I>&gt;<i> following solutions:
</I>&gt;<i> 1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment:
</I>&gt;<i> * Very easy, no extra work needed
</I>&gt;<i> * all work is done upstream
</I>&gt;<i> * no unique look for mageia
</I>&gt;<i> * different look in kde and gnome
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> 2.) create a new decoration for mageia
</I>&gt;<i> * Unique look for mageia
</I>&gt;<i> * uniform look in all environments
</I>&gt;<i> * heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3)
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> 3.) Use other existing window decorations
</I>&gt;<i> * easy, just a few work needed
</I>&gt;<i> * the are decorations that exists for all common environments -&gt; uniform
</I>&gt;<i> look
</I>&gt;<i> * relative unique look for mageia
</I>&gt;<i> * hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop the decoration
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But form the
</I>&gt;<i> artwork-side,
</I>&gt;<i> I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu, but with a
</I>&gt;<i> different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change the decoration
</I>&gt;<i> either, it's making a special first impression if it looks different (and
</I>&gt;<i> good,
</I>&gt;<i> hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution 3. But for that,
</I>&gt;<i> we
</I>&gt;<i> need more information.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations that exist in
</I>&gt;<i> kde,
</I>&gt;<i> gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After that, we can
</I>&gt;<i> take a
</I>&gt;<i> closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go with an other
</I>&gt;<i> solution.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the oxygen window
</I>&gt;<i> decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for GNOME2/3 and Qt.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
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